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Why on earth wasn't Kick-Ass called Hit Girl?

a movie poster that shows Hit Girl perched on a building. The movie poster reads Hit Girl even though it is a promotional poster for the movie Kick Ass
What Might Have Been

Kick-Ass, the new R-rated movie based on the R-rated comic book, follows a few masked-and-caped citizens whose paths cross over mob dealings and misunderstandings. The Watchmen it's not, but the introduction of a pint-sized heroine who plays with butterfly knives instead of Barbies sets it apart from other superhero flicks. Watching the movie, I found that when I wasn't wincing at the violence, I was cringing at the gaping disparity of both skill and storyline between the title character--the green-wet-suit wearing Dave, aka Kick-Ass--and the foul-mouthed, truly ass-kicking, Mindy MacCready, aka Hit Girl.

Dave is your recognizable nerdball who can't get the girl and fantasizes about boobs—a lot. And it's not exactly clear why someone so admittedly apathetic would want to fight crime. Even more ridiculous is the relationship he has with his dream girl, Katie. To finally get close to her, he goes along with her assumption that he's gay. (Being a girl's gay BFF, btw, means you get to rub self-tanner on her while she's topless and in her undies. You knew that right? My gay male friends love doing that to me.)

When Dave eventually breaks the news to Katie that a) he's Kick-Ass and b) he's been lying about his sexuality because he's in love with her, he does by climbing through her bedroom window unannounced. Apparently in the comic, she rightfully tells him to fuck off. In the Hollywood version, she's mad for about three seconds, and then invites him to bed, and the viewer has to watch as Dave ever so ickily reaches his dish-gloved hands towards her breasts. (I was absolutely unable to stop myself from groaning "Ewwww" really quite loudly when this occurred).

Oh, did I forget to mention why she (and others) thinks he's gay? Dave's beaten rather severely by two criminals (A note: criminals in Kick-Ass = black, white with tattoos, oily mafia types, people wearing skull caps). He removes his wet-suit Kick-Ass costume out of embarrassment. You do the math. Mugged by dudes + found naked = GAY. Yes! That is the math of Kick-Ass! I don't think I need to go into how problematic it is that if you are a guy and-- hypothetically or not--sexually assaulted by men, that you are a total gaywad.

All of this probably could have been avoided had the movie been about Hit Girl.

Because besides the offensive nature of Dave's plot lines, they're also offensively boring. He's a terrible superhero, never really succeeding at fighting bad guys. And as I've touched on earlier, his plot scenes don't really make that much sense. When we start learning Hit Girl and her father's background, the movie gets a lot more interesting. Their backstory is told through interactive-comic style, and we're given characters with motivations and drive, not just constant boners and MySpace replies (Note to future action movie makers: nothing is more riveting than watching a character check their MySpace account. Are you listening Tarantino? I expect some Facebook Connect in your next film.) Hit Girl is empowered, non-sexualized, and capable of defending herself--she's the one that comes to the rescue, and only needs assistant from others in the most dire of situations.

a movie still from Kick-Ass. Hit Girl is unmaksed. She is dressed like a school girl and holding a very large gun aggressively.

This goes beyond "Why can't there be more actions movies with strong female leads?" The movie actually would have been better had it been about Hit Girl, and studio demands of a "relatable" Peter Parker-meets-American-Pie protagonist was a real detriment to a more engaging plot. (Apparently Hit Girl and her father Big Daddy feature more prominently in the comic books.) Find one review that doesn't say that Hit Girl steals the show. She gets the best scenes, and actually complicates the plot. We would have been treated early on to a story involving a corrupt police unit and the impressive, albeit prematurely violent, handiwork of Hit Girl and her dad. The boob ogling/grabbing and "I'm a nerd (but actually an underdog!)" plot would have been relegated to the margins, where it belongs.

But reviews that aren't singing the praises of Chloë Grace Moretz are outraged that a petite girl-child is firing automatic weaponry as deftly as she drops expletives. The best response I've read concerning the gender dynamics of the movie and the subsequent media speculations comes from Cinematical's Geek Beat, who notes that had the character been "Hit Boy" there would be far less outrage.

If Hit Girl was the nerdy sidekick -- the one who stayed behind, made gadgets, and sharpened swords, no one would care. They might worry, they might even fret about her language, but she'd be out of harm's way. Then the discussion would be focused on Kick-Ass and his boyish ilk. I can almost guarantee it.

But I also think Hit Girl is as cool as hell. I like what she represents. I prefer her, her bad language, and her bloody weaponry to trends of toddler high heels, spa visits, and preteen sexualization. I find it more alarming that I hear a 7-year-old asking the Starbucks clerk about the calorie content of a Cafe Mocha because what the hell are you doing drinking coffee, little girl? And why do you know what calories are? Why aren't you playing outside, anyway? It's a silly thing to use as a symbol, of course, but I think there are dangerous, upsetting things happening in youth culture that we could address instead of worrying about one fictional upstart.

So, I guess you don't have to pass on Kick-Ass. But you should know it combines the creatively gruesome deaths of Guy Ritchie with the graphic violence of Tarantino, so if you don't like say, people getting set on fire, beat with blunt objects, shot at close range, and our two young protagonists getting the shit kicked out of them, it's not for you. For those of you who are interested in watching a nerdy white guy fight of evil villains, save your money for Scott Pilgrim.

Anyone else see Kick-Ass? Anyone read the comics?

Hit Girl Hysteria [Cinematical]
How Kick-Ass' killer Hit Girl is like Alien's Ripley [Sci Fi Wire]

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I've not seen this nor read

I've not seen this nor read the comics, but I am a HUGE fan of The Professional, which, it seems to me, is the movie you might be looking for. While Mathilde is not the savior, she IS a kick ass chick who hones her fury and does NOT fuck around. Plus, Jean Reno is amazing.

Also, I loathe Nic Cage, and my husband is done with the geek-but-hero movies, so I think we're definitely going to pass on this one.

Did you see Anthony Lane's

Did you see Anthony Lane's review in the New Yorker? I feel like it raises some of the same concerns as the "outraged" reviewers (kind of), but in a way that is far more compelling, because it seems to suggest that the differentiation of Hit Girl's role in pop culture as a "violent" girl from the more commonly encountered "sexualized" girl might just be a false dichotomy.

“Kick-Ass” is violence’s answer to kiddie porn. You can see it in Hit Girl’s outfit when she cons her way past security guards—white blouse, hair in pigtails, short tartan skirt—and in the winsome way that she pleads to be inculcated into grownup excess. That pleading is the dream of every pedophile, and I wonder if Goldman paused to examine her contribution to the myth. (Note what the script does with mothers: Dave’s expires at the breakfast table, causing no blip in the rhythm of his life, and Hit Girl’s was dead before she was born. Thus is any trace of tenderness expunged before our tale begins.) Goldman would presumably say that it is violence, not sex, that our pre-teen heroine learns, but that is a cowardly distinction—although, to be fair, it is a cowardice shared by everyone from the M.P.A.A. down.

The whole thing is worth reading.

The sexualization of children (particularly girls) in media is by no means an area of expertise for me, but Lane strikes me as being on to something.

Yeah, I think Lane is dead

Yeah, I think Lane is dead on. What kills me is observations like this one Cinematical made:

"It's a silly thing to use as a symbol, of course, but I think there are dangerous, upsetting things happening in youth culture that we could address instead of worrying about one fictional upstart."

As if the solution is leaving one ill-advised child representation alone simply because there are other, worse circumstances a child can be placed in. It should all be treated seriously. Can't understand why people are so ready and willing to rationalize it.

But why just Goldman?

Lane's overall point is a good one. But why does he single out co-writer Jane Goldman as being especially responsible for Hit Girl's portrayal -- and for the film's depiction of mothers? Would it just be asking too much to hold Matthew Vaughn responsible, too? Sure, he's a dude, and I know we have terribly low expectations of them, but he did co-write and direct the film. Why not ask Vaughn to examine his conscience, too? It seems the very definition of a double standard.

I actually liked this film.

I did actually like this film in a large part because 20 minutes in I knew exactly what I was watching. It's a compilation of superhero movie tropes that walks the thin line between an homage to and a lampooning of the subject. I am amused by how everyone keeps saying that the film would be so much better if the focus had been on Ht Girl and Big Daddy. They had the most cliched, overly dramatic storyline possible in comic-verse; an entire move of that would have been terrible. Their short screen time is what made Hit Girl and Big Daddy shine.

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@cheveux: I read (as did another article I saw) the school girl outfit as a reference to Tarantino's Kill Bill and/or Battle Royale which also have violent kids in school outfits, but I will definitely be checking out that article, thanks.

and speaking of homages, @scrumby, I see what you mean. It is cliche to have vigilantes go after a corrupt police squad, add in a tragic backstory, and...yeah. It's just that I found the character and plot of Dave so. awful. (and in its own way, something that we've seen a million times before), that I really wonder if it was worth featuring Kick Ass over Hit Girl. I mean, story aside, the fight scenes were better!

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but if the entire film were

but if the entire film were fight scenes it wouldn't have been interesting. I don't think there's enough to Hit Girl or Big Daddy to carry an entire film.

As for David's story, I didn't find it to objectionable because for the most part Judd Appatow films have numbed me to "bumbling nerd boy gets hot girl for no real reason" plots but more importantly because it did a good job of skewering a few of the annoying tropes about hero's girl friends. Granted any genre that spawns "woman in a refrigerator" as a common trope has already set the bar very low, but I relished it when Katie attacks David after he creeps in her room. I've seen that specific scene in comics so many times (it's no wonder David tries it) and the woman is always scared and may ever react defensively but it never ends up hurting the guy. For me the crushing of that particular fantasy was a delight even if he gets the girl in the end.

Spoiler Alert!!

What actually bothered me about the film adaptation of Hit Girl is the need for her to suppress any and all emotions. In the comic, towards the end she tries to control her emotions until after the final battle, and when it's all over, she cries and asks Kick-Ass for a hug. It made her more human, whereas in the film adaptation here's this untouchable, unfazeable, emotionless killing robot who hardly cries even when it's warranted. It does feel like two sides of the same coin: teaching girls that their choices are to either be hyper-sexualized and boycentric, or to be a total badass with no room for such trivialties as emotion or tenderness. Or worse: to be both (Lara Croft much?)

That being said, I actually liked Kick-Ass, despite the feckless bumbling hero cliche. I rather liked the notion that Hit Girl/Big Daddy aside, everyone else who donned a suit was a wannabe geek, right down to the archnemesis. Even Big Daddy is just another comic geek with something to prove, despite the dramatic storyline.

@ Cheveux: FWIW, it's a minor point, but the whole "mother-is-out-of-the-picture-through-death" cliche is turned on its ear in the comic - Hit Girl's mother is alive, divorced from Big Daddy and has been searching for her for years.

It was unnerving when

It was unnerving when (spoiler alert?) she and Kick Ass were driving home together but I couldn't pinpoint why at the time...now I see it was her lack of emotion, thanks for bringing that up. (Again, it was probably my annoyance with Kick-Ass, which obviously obscured a lot of other observations of the film...I was so pissed he was trying to advise her on her future! what nerve.) Thanks for your insights on the comic as well!

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One line shows you missed the point of the film

"And it’s not exactly clear why someone so admittedly apathetic would want to fight crime."

The whole point of KICK-ASS is to show what happens when an ordinary teenager when feed a constant diet of superhero comics and video games, (you seem to forget that he's repeatedly robbed outside the comic shop where he hangs out with his friends), wonders if he has what it takes to battle the dangers in his own life. And of course, he's very much in over his head even after gains a "super power" of not feeling as much physical pain. His plot is the juxtaposition of reality to the super-reality of a mob boss, a mad cop bent on revenge and a child killer. He's just another lost young man pretending to be strong in the face of crime, the loss of his mother (he does look for her guidance later in the film at the cemetery) and dealing with girls. While I'll agree that his character's pretending to be gay (after the girl of his dreams thinks he is gay) is far too broad to be taken seriously, it's just another element of his lost boy persona.

yeah but....

...and part of this is me not wanting to admit that Kick-Ass went over my head, but he does (spoiler alert) 1. end up with the girl 2. by the closing scenes, become a superhero of sorts. So while the juxtaposition of the "regular guy" floundering in the world of actual crime and crimefighters works for most of the movie, does the conclusion speak to that narrative?

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Here's the answer

THIS trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zLsdBEsr90 was the first one released (several months before any others) for the movie, seems like there may have been a change of plans at some point.

Kick-ass is pretty blatantly

Kick-ass is pretty blatantly pornographic. Maybe it's nice to have an "empowered young lady" in a mainstream movie, but the fact still stands that she plays the role of a token, and she's especially 1-dimensional (though not in quite the dismal way as the love interest Katie) in the fact that she's precisely the byproduct of her father's socializing and almost incestuous obsession. Yes, it's nice that she is a young girl with atypical interests, but she is a plotplot device meant to draw controversy and attention to what was overall a stunningly offensive and thematically juvenile movie. What caught me most off-guard was how seamlessly they managed to sexualize the character of Hit-Girl under the guise of innocence.
The entire movie is directly catering to the niche of internet culture that worships at the altar of prepubescent girls wearing short skirts and pigtails. This is even directly addressed when one of the characters in the movie says he wants to marry her, despite the fact that she's 11.

I really cringe at the comparison drawn between this movie and Tarantino, who doesn't use female characters as a plot device, but rather to revolutionize our perception of women in modern culture, that has grown to know and love bloody gore in their films. In "Kill Bill", for example, Uma Thurman is not fighting against men who are much larger than her, choking her against bookcases, lying her flat on tables delivering implications of rape, Nic Cage shooting his own daughter. Uma Thurman is the main character who exists not for shock value, but for the purpose of flipping our expectations of women within the context of action movies on its head.
I don't see Hit-Girl as an empowered character, I see her as the sad byproduct of her father's twisted fantasies, and I see her as a direct catering to a delusionally pedophilic audience.

And this is not even the tip of the iceberg for things wrong in this movie.
It might be declared to be a "satire" or "parody" on superhero culture, and it did indeed look promising in that respect within the first 20 minutes, but it very clearly became an unironic marketing ploy, but for many of the more offensive (homophobic, sexist,...) gimmicks utilized, it comes with no concession, or the concession it delivers is essentially to laugh off something which is actually a fairly big problem in culture.

Right about Kick Ass... Wrong about Tarantino

Couldn't have said it better about Kiss Ass!!!

But I really disagree with you about Tarantino. His movies are derivative, not revolutionary. Everything he does is a homage. When it come to martial arts films he oversexualizes in a big western way. Kung fu theatre films have always shown women who can throw down... and sometimes even fly, but these women don't ride around in a "pussy wagon", wear school girl outfits and get filmed at porno camera angles like those in death proof.

The thing about the Pussy

The thing about the Pussy Wagon is that it is very obviously supposed to be the mechanism of misogyny and sexism, which Uma Thurman reclaims when she bites the tongue out of Buck and steals the Pussy Wagon. I would liken it to reclaiming a word that was once used to shame you, and I see that scene as perhaps not "empowering" exactly in the sense you might want, but certainly not objectionable as a feminist. It's maybe excessive in its point, but certainly indicative of a different representation of women that is not present in most big budget action movies in America, regardless of whether this was not the case in the films he plays homage to (which are clearly not as popular within the mainstream).

I've seen in interviews with Tarantino where he says that he consciously wants to create characters that empower women and that women will enjoy watching. He has said this directly, particularly about Kill Bill. And I think he executes this especially well in Kill Bill. I think it's also interesting to note how little attention is paid to making Uma Thurman look conventionally pretty in Kill Bill. The focus is much more on the action and her over-dramatized interactions with the people she seeks revenge with, which is not the case in many movies of that genre, and perhaps not even as much in his other movies either. But Kill Bill, I think, is brilliant in that sense. It's sensationalized, but I don't see that as necessarily a bad thing since it is film, not meant to be a window into reality.

I will, however, agree with you that maybe this wasn't so much the case in Death Proof, but even so the characters are so much more than just token sexy female characters, which I think is important because I don't have an objection to sexy women as long as "sexy" isn't their only purpose. What I DO have a problem with is when an 11 year old character is portrayed in a "sexy" way, and when her existence in the story is essentially to draw in the people who will see her as a target of their lust.

(Sorry to go into an excess about Kill Bill, but it's one of my favorites...)

school girl lust?

Please explain to me how Hit Girl is an object of lust. Hit Girl's costume wasn't sexual; she isn't shot from porn angles; there's no comments on her figure or lingering on her form. How is she remotely sexy? Well there is that scene with the school uniform and despite the fact that every person in the scene treats her as a little girl not a fantasy come true somehow she's a sex object? I'm not going to say their isn't a school uniform kink but to imply that any female especially one that appears so young is instantly a figure of lust because she is wear an outfit that millions of girls world wide wear to school everyday is ridiculous. It's a school uniform; she wears it make herself look like a young child to put off the guards.

And lets talk about that looking like a child thing too. Other characters say that Mindy looks about eleven or twelve but her actual age is never mentioned. At the end of the film she enrolls in high school which assuming she's starting at Freshman year and isn't skipping or delaying any grades puts her at 14 to 15 years old. That's still too young for an adult male's interest but the only person to express a sexual interest in Mindy was David's teenage friend.

I don't even see how it's

I don't even see how it's sexual- it's not like he was talking about "tapping that" or anything, he just said he wanted to marry her. And when they commented that she was like 11, he said "I'll wait for her." implying that he doesn't want to be with her when she was a child, but when she was an adult. So. . . not pedophilia.

I assumed that Hit Girl was

I assumed that Hit Girl was going to the same school as Dave because it was one of those schools that combined the Junior High and High School and that she was 11 or 12 starting the sixth or seventh grade.

Incestuous? Really? A father

Incestuous? Really? A father can't show love to his daughter?

Yeah, Big Daddy was messed up, but if half of the parents in real life cared as much as he does, the world would be a better place. I know I wish my parents would have cared about ANYTHING I liked as a kid, even if it was something they just wanted me to like.

"but the fact still stands

"but the fact still stands that she plays the role of a token[...]"

A token character doesn't steal the entire show.

Spoilers will be found from

Spoilers will be found from here onward- but honestly, don't read articles about a movie if you haven't seen it yet.
Well, having seen the movie and read the book, as well as being mildly interested in comics, here's what I know/ think. Several key points in the comic are of course different- the scene with his mother's death, for instance, is more dramatic, but the after effects are less so. She died in front of him, and what the comic showed was that how he thought his entire world would be different. . . it wasn't. The movie just sort of made him seem cold to the fact that she died. Also, during the hospital part of the movie, he sees his mom in a hallucenation, who chastises him a bit. Also, in the comic, Hit Girl's father made that whole story up- he was an accountant who had a wife that hated him and he found his life too mundane. He escaped from this life into comic books. When he had a daughter, he was so afraid that her life would be ordinary that he took her and made up the story of a heroic cop who was betrayed (ala Punisher) and trained her up like Robin (whose parents were killed.) The final chapters of Kick-Ass the comic had so much more of an effect because it showed that even the hard-core actually SUCCESSFUL heroes were just people who were fed up with their day to day lives, and it showed that Big Daddy had no real reason to die. . . And the fact that, in the comic book, Hit Girl kept going even after finding this out was impressive.

Back to the whole him being gay thing- the reason they assumed he was gay was because he was mugged and naked in a bad part of town where prostitution was common. They assumed that he was selling his body for sex, and that a John stabbed him. Katie's mother works in a shelter for abused women, so that was naturally a daily thought for her, and she felt sorry for him and became his friend. During the comic reveal, he doesn't actually go in the house; he shouts it at her window, and the only part she hears is "and I'm not really gay." So, him being her only gay friend, she asks him about it, and when he said he was lying, she gets upsets and starts doing lots of hateful things, which is understandable.

Also, the comment his friend made about wanting to marry Hit Girl? It seemed more of a reaction to her skill as a super hero (being the only one NOT set on fire or tied to a chair) and killing dozens of men several times her size. It wasn't a sexual reaction, really. He even expresses the fact that he'd "wait for her" which shows that he wasn't out looking for an 11 year old to get with sexually, he was wanting to be with that person when they were 18. So. . . Uhm. . . Yeah.

right!

Even in the movie, he was assaulted in front of some gay sex club (or at least gay club) I believe, so right, it wasn't simply the fact that he was assaulted or naked, it was the particular geographical location that he was in when these things occurred. Still doesn't make the assumption "okay," but explains it a bit more.

Don't get me wrong I want to

Don't get me wrong I want to bang hit-girl the second she hits 21 (I'll be 25 and waiting)!! But...the frikking movie is about kick-ass instead of hit-gril because people can relate to kick-ass more, the MOST ordinary out of all of the characters. Red Mist is the lonely son of a drug lord, Hit Girl is the daughter of a revenge obsessed lunatic ex-cop who was framed for his good work and lost his wife as a result; Big Daddy. Who the hell could relate to that? Except from the neglected ofspring of druglords and framed and victimized ex-cops, which is pretty rare, not many people would see the relevance of it. Wouldn't sell very much now would it? Dib shit ass faced turd covered donkey dick?

Because

Why isn't the movie called Hit Girl? Because the protagonist gives the audience a viewpoint, while the most interesting character sets the direction of the story.

Luke Skywalker represents the viewer; Han Solo represents the adventure.

Richie Cunningham represents the viewer; Fonzie represents the adventure.

Kick-Ass represents the viewer; Hit-Girl represents the adventure.

Charlie Brown represents the reader; Snoopy represents all the adventures he'll never have.

Even "My Dinner With Andre" follows the schlubby Wally while his friend Andre has all the fun.

The importance of this structure is easy to miss, which is why the last 15 years of Snoopy-centered Peanuts cartoons were so lame and Happy Days jumped the shark when Fonzie, er, jumped the shark.

If we all trained as assassins from infancy, Hit Girl could be the protagonist. Instead, she's demoted to merely being the reason to see the movie.

I actually wouldn't have liked is as much if it were about her.

I like the idea of a hero being jaded, hatching a plan for revenge, honing their skills, systematically tearing apart before the final confrontation with the main villain has set up. It's entertaining, but it's cliché.

Daredevil, Batman, The Fugitive, Star Wars, ect.

I like this movie not just because it's beautifully written, bold, and does an excellent job of deconstructing the basic question "why aren't there superheroes?". I love it because it is original. No one comic book writer has ever asked that question before and came up with such an answer before, and conveyed it so well.

If they made a movie about a man who's wife dies, so he goes on an brave adventure to take down evil drug dealers bringing along his daughter for the ride, it would have been boring and I wouldn't have seen it. Why? Because why watch a movie when you've already seen it a million times before.

Now, what movie would I l see? How about a movie about a young boy who after loosing his mom becomes a suicidal psedo-superhero, later becomes involved in events far greater than him while at the same time learns the intrinsic value of begin alive, and inspires the world to greatness. Now that's a good movie, more importantly, it's an original concept.

Still, you disagree? That's cool. If you want to see a movie about a preteen female superhero go make one, otherwise it ain't likely to happen. Not in the way you'd like, and certainly not if all you do to implement the change you want to see is blog about it.

BTW, do you guys honestly think a girl running around in leather, a plaid skirt, with purple hair isn't sexualized just because she's a minor? L0L.

I don't think she is

I don't think she is sexualized at all. And it's not because she is a minor. There's nothing sexual about having purple hair. And while you can of course make a sexualized leather outfit, there was nothing sexual at all about her outfit. It doesn't attempt to show off her body, if it was, it wouldn't be covered with so many gadgets.

It seems to come down to the schoolgirl outfit. Schoolgirl outfits aren't just fetish gear, they are clothing worn by many real schoolgirls. To call the schoolgirl outfit sexy says more about the person who finds it sexy. There is a schoolgirl fetish, where a women will wear a schoolgirl outfit, to simulate being an underage girl. It's often done with over the top sexuality. This is not. It seems that people just can't point to exactly what they find sexualized about the character, other than the schoolgirl outfit. Is a nurse's outfit sexualized just because someone might use such an outfit as fetish gear?

Where are the women?

There isn't ONE in this film. Both heros' mothers are dead. All the high school girls are hot pieces of cardboard, the gal pal/girlfriend is just an object, Hit-Girl isn't a woman, and totally psychologically manipulated by her father, and D'Amico's wife has one scene where she's so much in the background that people on comment boards aren't even sure if she IS his wife. The only adult woman in the film that isn't a wife, is Dave's teacher, and even she is just a sexual object to him.

This film made me quite angry.

Hit Girl is a "woman" and she wasn't manipulated

Even though Hit Girl isn't past puberty, she counts as a "woman" because she had to grow up real fast, alright?

"Hit-Girl isn't a woman, and totally psychologically manipulated by her father" - Not in the movie she isn't.

In the book she IS manipulated by her father, who lied about the reason he took up crime fighting.

Plus in the end she enrolls in HIGH SCHOOL.

Well, it's a rale of two Katies

"When Dave eventually breaks the news to Katie that a) he’s Kick-Ass and b) he’s been lying about his sexuality because he’s in love with her, he does by climbing through her bedroom window unannounced. Apparently in the comic, she rightfully tells him to fuck off. In the Hollywood version, she’s mad for about three seconds, and then invites him to bed, and the viewer has to watch as Dave ever so ickily reaches his dish-gloved hands towards her breasts. (I was absolutely unable to stop myself from groaning “Ewwww” really quite loudly when this occurred)."

1. Katie has and different personality between the book and the movie. In the book she's a snob and a jerk. Also Kickass himself is less sympathetic. He announces his deception and love for Katie publicly in the book, and her reaction in the book is to have her real boyfriend beat him up and then sext a picture of herself performing fellatio on the boyfriend to Dave

In the movie Katie is attracted to Hitman and wishes that Dave wasn't gay. She works at a methadone clinic to help people. She is far more of a likeable person in the movie.

Kick Ass

I fail to see why so many declare this film a dud or question the path of the film. This is a masterpiece. I have never seen anything like it. I used to read comic books as a child and a few into my teens. What happened in them, though more tame, is not much different from what occurs in the movie. This movie was made for the comic book reader. Most readers are content to leave the fantasy that they are an imposing figure because they win a few video games or can swing a baton in their bedroom. For those that wish to take it to a higher plain, the movie laughs at their pathetic attempts all the way through.

It takes a little bit more than courage to defeat the great foe. Big Daddy is not some fellow spurred by an urge to help other people. His wretched past shapes his present and future. None will know what would have become of him when the cause of all his misfortunes ceases to be. His daughter, another tool in his fine weapons cache, blindly follows everything he says and does. The bad guy is whoever Big Daddy points to. With the loss of her moral guide, God knows what the first school that Hit Girl attends is going to look like after a few weeks.

When the brazenly foolish Kick Ass (what a name) stumbles into his own murder scene, the real action stars show up. I could not get over how funny it was to see Hit Girl flirting with and grinning at Kick Ass, stunned and speechless on the floor, as she ruthlessly lances several of her opponents.

Welcome to the big leagues, Kick Ass. You've got potential!

Kick Ass is certainly better than those that will imagine themselves as being some bedroom super hero in that he actually goes out and attempts it. But he has a long way to go before he becomes the character that slaughters when he has to and assists when he does not. And after such a pitiable start, I guess the comic book series is all about that journey from brave novice to relentless crime fighter.

Maybe Hit Girl will re-emerge a far wiser and older Hit Woman, but I think the rest of her life would be spent exorcising those lethal impulses and establishing a feasible method of distinguishing right from wrong.

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The sexy Hit-Girl

Much has been discussed about whether or not Chloe Moretz was sexualized as Hit-Girl. Especially the schoolgirl uniform scene has been mentioned.

An 11-12-year old girl wearing a completely normal school uniform (not a skimpy one, or in any way modified) should normally not be seen as being sexualized.

Actually, they went with the schoolgirl uniform because a little schoolgirl is perceived as something of the most innocent and non-threatening there is.

Hence, in the movie she uses it as a calculated disguise, which also increases the dramatic impact when she turns out to be a stone-cold master assassin.

So, back to why do people perceive her as being sexualized. This is where the minefield starts….

In the movie Hit-Girl/Mindy is clearly wise beyond her years, she kills, she curses… and yes she uses sexual references (when cursing and in one scene uttering “… it’s in the shape of a giant cock.”). But this doesn’t really sexualize her; in any case it is rarely mentioned in that debate.

No, it’s the schoolgirl uniform and occasionally also that she wears her hair in pigtails both normally and as “the schoolgirl” that tends to get people upset. And, oh, of course the phallic big gun she carries.

Now, I put to you that the following applies to this whole matter. It lies in the eyes of the beholder… and what started this debate is what the viewers beheld.

I believe this is what has happened.

Due to the fact that: it’s a movie, and Hit-Girl is acting older, using sexual language, and even blowing a kiss at Dave in the film… people, on an unconscious level, partly forget that she is just 11-12 years old.

So with that “moral safety switch” off, they perceive at her differently. They see Chloe Moretz in her role as Hit-Girl. Chloe is then a very pretty young actress with a lot of charisma. Or to use another word one could say sex appeal.

Chloe is at present date (just 16) constantly being “sexualized” in her photo shoots and videos and the first suggested search term that pops up if you google her name is: hot. They girl simply has got the elusive “it”.

I put forward to you, that she had sex appeal already in Kick-ass.

To put it bluntly, while “not on their guard” against such feelings, many actually found her attractive, probably particularly so in her schoolgirl outfit.

There it is: For many, Chloe Moretz actually was sexy as in the Kick-ass movie. Period.

Let’s face it, if people had not perceived her as sexy, then the whole issue about whether or not she was being sexualized had never been brought up in the first place.

So that opens another possible debate:

Could it be socially acceptable to find such a young girl sexually attractive?
It most certainly doesn’t mean you are going to molest her.

No, currently it is not socially acceptable and that is partly why the debate sometimes has been so heated about this.

As mentioned, I believe lots of people found Chloe sexy in Kick-ass. However, if you can’t admit that you think so, then you go on the attack instead as mental rationalization and protection reaction.

The same safety thinking applies for teen girls too. All girls under 16-18 are referred to as being pretty, beautiful or cute…. not sexy.

But once they turn 18 they magically turn “sexy” overnight.
And they do without being “sexualized”…. it’s simply acknowledging the truth.

About sexy Hit-Girl

Thank you. I think you nailed it. Many found Hit-Girl (Chloe) sexy in Kick-Ass.

I've definitely had fantasies about peeling her panties off and sliding my cock into that sexy little girl.

There, I admitted it. And so have a lot of my friends.