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Why Do Many "Breaking Bad" Fans Love Walter White But Hate Skyler?

Skyler and Walt look down at a giant pile of money

As "Breaking Bad" comes to an end this week, the big question on fans' minds is what will become of chemistry nerd turned drug kingpin Walter White and his family.

Though he's the classic example of an anti-hero, Walt initially entered the ever-thrilling field of meth production in a desperate effort to provide economic security for his wife, Skyler, son, and daughter-to-be. That noble goal is lost, as he spirals into violence and his "bullshit rationales." Despite his corrupt moral compass, viewers continue to root for Walt and there's a latent feeling that the audience will revolt if he doesn't survive the show's finale. Meanwhile, among many "Breaking Bad" fans, there's no love lost (to put it mildly) for his wife Skyler. Actress Anna Gunn even wrote an op-ed in the New York Times recently talking about the hatred of her character.

"My character, to judge from the popularity of Web sites and Facebook pages devoted to hating her, has become a flash point for many people's feelings about strong, nonsubmissive, ill-treated women," writes Gunn.  

I love the show, but the problem with Skyler is clear. While the show revolves around Walt's struggles along the spectrum of morality, Skyler never gets much space to be an independent character. Her story really revolves around the choices her husband makes. It's hard to build empathy with a character whose internal conflicts are never fully explored—instead, she often seems to just be getting in the way of the story, as another obstacle for her husband. Skyler's character does evolve significantly on the show: once Walt's secret life as a meth cooker is out, Skyler moves from being a two-dimensional good wife to a more interesting person who becomes complicit in the chaos and takes over the money laundering side of the operation. While she starts the series showing up at Jesse's house, whom she believes is selling her husband pot, to chew him out, by the end of season 5, she's signing off on Jesse's execution. Her transformation (along with Walt's) is one of the most fascinating parts of the show, but it's not explored deeply enough. Instead, her actions always feel more like reactions as she deals with the life that her husband has chosen.

Skyler asks "what's one more?"

Photo: Good point, Skyler. 

"Breaking Bad" frequently and intelligently explores the questions of what it means to be a man and a father. Initially, it's clear that Walt feels less masculine than the men around him—he's a nerd who struggles to earn a living spending his days harassed by high schoolers who drive better cars than him—and he enjoys becoming a drug kingpin in a large part because of the power it brings. He has a desperate need to be able to provide for his family, lest his man card be taken away in the afterlife.

Meanwhile, the show hardly scratches the surface of female gender roles and expectations. Though it spans 61 hour-long episodes, "Breaking Bad" barely passes the Bechdel test. By this final season, there are now three significant female characters (Skyler, her sister Marie and drug boss Lydia). Skyler and Lydia have shared just one brief interaction with each other, while Skyler and Marie have many conversations over the span of the series. However, the vast majority of their conversations are about the men in their lives (taking pause at times to talk about how Skyler gets her mashed potatoes so smooth and their love of fat-free salad dressing). Recently "Breaking Bad" execs Vince Gilligan, Peter Gould, and Gennifer Hutchison revealed some plot lines which were discussed, but never added to the show. One involved Skyler and Marie taking a trip to see their low-life artist father, as a means of explaining why Skyler was with Walt. This plot was rejected because it "veered too far astray" from the main story. "It just wasn't the show," said Hutchison. "It didn't fit with the tone."

Throughout the series, Walt has continually justified all his actions with the fact that he's doing this dirty work for his family. Our anti-hero clearly has a warped sense of family values, which we witness as he does things such as moving back into the house without Skyler's consent, sexually forcing himself on her after a crime-induced adrenaline rush, continually abusing and manipulating her to get his way, threatening to commit her to a mental institution, struggling with her in a knife fight and then kidnapping their baby. It's not often discussed that their relationship is abusive, but Skyler constantly has to negotiate protecting her children as best she can without bringing the entire operation down. There's a healthy dose of self-preservation behind her actions. "It's hard enough for women who aren't married to evil geniuses to leave abusive relationships," writes says Alyssa Rosenburg at ThinkProgress. "Skyler is attempting to negotiate a livable existence for herself in highly unusual circumstances. And her steel is hardening every day."

It isn't often that we see strong women on television who are in abusive relationships, and this is part of what makes Skyler such a complex and interesting character. Still, some viewers see Skyler as either a nagging harpy or a hypocritical gold-digger. In the intense episode, "Ozymandias," I could almost hear all the Skyler haters cheering on Walt as he spewed his vitriol towards her over the phone.

As Walt's sometimes-antagonist, Skyler is hated, in part, for getting in the way of the show's anti-hero, but I believe she's also hated by misogynists who just can't stand to see a woman stand up for herself and her family. But with Walt doing all these horrible things throughout his journey, why do we root for him? Do we hold out hope for him because he is selflessly providing for his family? No, we're pulling for Walt because he's the former beleaguered middle class nerd turned criminal mastermind who takes no shit. Perhaps some (especially male) viewers see something of themselves in the former Walter White.

But personally, I've never been a fan of Walt. This weekend, I hope he goes down in flames. Then, hopefully, Skyler will finally be able to pursue her own life. 

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Counter-argument

Hey Megan,

I am going to play devil's advocate to your argument and would love your intellectual feedback on this. Or anyone else's input as well.

I assume that your basic argument is that most of the hatred spanned from the general acceptance of spousal abuse and the lack of acceptance for strong women in television. However, it is unclear whether you are doing a story on the audience response of the character or the general idea of spousal abuse, so I will try to stick to the show and stay away from personal agenda. A lot of the examples that you chose could be countered by the fact that Skylar was in a position to pursue her own life. She tried to leave twice, once kidnapping Holly only to realize that she can benefit in the world of drugs. It was a high for her. Remember, she was a failing writer and accountant. It was HER IDEA for the car wash (not laser tag), and her insistence to keep it going. She was, in other terms, in a drug induced state of euphoria. And yes, they did have consensual sex upon realizing how exciting their lives are again. (season 3) Do you see how I was able to pull important character building plot points to show Skylar's major role in the show?

Also, she cheated on Walt. That was the reason. You are absolutely correct in his sense of family and warped morality. Heck, the show is modeled after the Western narrative (meaning John Wayne and such, not North American) so those are major themes historically speaking. Remember, the first thing Walt did when he thought he was going to be arrested was to send a video to his family, telling them that he loved them. That never left fans and apparently you observed that too. This leads to my last point.

Because of the prevalence of that major characteristic, it was the sole turning point when she cheated on Walt, uses his money to help the guy and subsequently contracted the "A team" to kill the cheating husband! I mean it was a mufti-episode plot. It last four seasons!!!! That was the moment when her favoritism ended. But most importantly, she tried to harm their baby...over and over again! It was sickening. Don't you remember her drinking and smoking cigarettes while having Holly in her?

Yes, the relationship has gotten worse but she was just as terrible a wife and mother, like Walt was a husband.

I would love to hear your response.

YES!!!! ^^^^^

YES!!!! ^^^^^

I have many issues about

I have many issues about statements you have made. Some of them you make an interpretation that I don't t get. Others you just get the plot details wrong. I'm assuming you have only seen the series once and don't remember much of it. I'm an obsessed fan who can recall the series in great detail (whether thats pathetic or not is another story)

Moving on...

1.) You said: "She tried to leave twice, once kidnapping Holly only to realize that she can benefit in the world of drugs. It was a high for her"

In what ways does the show indicate that it was a high for her? And how do you know that it what she was thinking when she left with Holly but then came back?

I would argue that she was in denial about who Walt really was and how much damage he had done. She thought that they could eventually have their lives back and pretend the whole meth thing never happened. She argued for and secured the car wash to provide a believable business that they would run, and they had to keep it going to prove they had legitimate income. How does that mean she found it exciting?

She made the choice to help cover for Walt, but it continued to spiral out of control and she could no longer keep cleaning up Walt's mess and creating alibis for him. When she realized it could never go back to normal and she couldn't leave him not because of how involved became, she tried to drown herself. Then sent the kids away AGAIN. And told Walt she had no choices left but to wait for him to die. Is this the "drug induced euphoria" you speak of?

And every time she cautioned Walt about not spending money on fancy cars or champagne because it looks suspicious, was this her way of "benefiting from the world of drugs" like you mentioned? In what ways exactly did she benefit?

2).You said: "they did have consensual sex upon realizing how exciting their lives are again. "

When did this happen???? I have a feeling you are referring to the time Walt left a message on their machine that he was thinking about Skylar and the kids and wanted to say I love you. Then they had sex for the first time since he moved out. How does this in any way mean that they were excited about their meth business lives??

In fact, once Skylar realized that the machine message was a possible goodbye for good from Walt she immediately became paranoid and concerned again that danger was surrounding Walt. And then decided that he shouldn't move back into the house.

3.) i don't get what the "sole turning point" you are referring to was in terms of Skylar cheating on Walt. But I do want you to recall that Skylar didn't cheat on him until after Walt referred to (and confirmed the existence of) his second cell phone while drifting out of consciousness for his second cancer related procedure.

Then Skylar made sure he was healthy enough before kicking him out while calling him out on his lies that EVEN THEN he still wouldn't come clean about. Then Walt finagled his way back him in when Skylar couldn't report anything to the police. THEN she cheated. This cheating followed months of Walt lying to her. This cheating was not only a way to make herself feel better about the awful circumstances of her marriage, but also to make Walt miserable enough to move out of the house because she feared for her children's safety.

4.) You said "she uses his money to help the guy and subsequently contracted the "A team" to kill the cheating husband! "

I don't know why you THINK Skylar gave Ted the money, but the actual reason she did was still, yet again, to save Walt's ass. If Ted got audited that would only have brought attention to Skylar and then eventually Walt, and their entire lives would be crumbling down. Ted paying his taxes was essential to keeping their family safe from attention.

Secondly, she never contracted anyone to kill Ted. She told Saul that he needed to help her get Ted to pay his taxes. Ted having a paralyzing accident was actually an accident from him slipping on his kitchen rug.

She didn't even resort to paying the taxes herself until she realized that Ted wasn't going to, not even after she got him off the hook with the IRS agent by pretending she was an incompetent accountant.

5.) You said: "But most importantly, she tried to harm their baby...over and over again! It was sickening. Don't you remember her drinking and smoking cigarettes while having Holly in her?"

If you think she was actively trying to harm Holly, you are an idiot. She was so frustrated by the circumstances she was willing to rationalize any risks by trying to make herself feel better. It's only human to get angry and sick of following all the rules when other people, namely your husband, keep disappearing and lying about it over and over and over again and giving you bullshit explanations which further serve to insult you because he believes you are really that stupid.

Walt uses his family to rationalize all the horrible things he does. Skylar partakes in horrible (but not as horrible) things but she actually does it for her family, unlike Walt. The first time we realize that Walt doesn't have his family's best interest in mind is when he refuses to accept the money from his Gray Matter partners to pay for his cancer treatment in Season 1. The first time we realize that Walt has a pride, ego, and power issue is the FIRST EPISODE of the show. Recall when he told Jesse he wanted to "feel alive".

RE: I have many issues about

You are correct, I have only seen each episode once a week since its very conception. Considering that my schedule is the most common (and sane) watching schedule, don't you think there is a reason why the most indelible impression of Skylar is so negative?

Here is my interpretation: She was thrown into an antagonist role right away. To be brutally honest, there was no way we were given a reason to even like his family situation. I think we were rooting for him to leave them was because everyone in that family besides Hank and Walt Jr, are pretty much fucked. Actually I know a lot of people who are pissed at Walt Jr. after the last episode and his response to the phone call.

I mean, the whole premise was so that Walt can support his family, but can you honestly argue that Walt had a good support system? Heck, the only character that we all like is Jesse.

Your response actually made me realize that despite the positive motives behind Skylar, maybe she was meant to be an antagonist.

Like to her your response on that. Maybe we are delving into a new type of character development, in which no one got until now. Maybe Jesse is in reality, Walt's "real" family and his biological clan is just a facade.

Skyler

Ummm....so how does Skyler sleeping with Ted help her family???? (You said everything she did was to help her family)
Absolutely ridiculous.

Re- how IFT was to serve her family

Skylar slept with Ted for a few reasons but a primary cause was her desire to get her increasingly dangerous husband out of the house- he wouldn't leave and she was desperate to get him away from her kids!

Skyler

Skyler was looking through pictures and saw a picture of her and Ted. She went back to work while pregnant. She was attracted to Ted and was open flirting with him way before things starting getting bad between her and Walt. She knew what she was doing.

Skyler

Skyler was looking through pictures and saw a picture of her and Ted. She went back to work while pregnant. She was attracted to Ted and was open flirting with him way before things starting getting bad between her and Walt. She knew what she was doing.

3rd season turn

I liked Skylar's character since the first episode. I thought she was a little self righteous and naggy ( of course she would complain about her husband coming in at 3:00 in the morning. She didn't know he was selling drugs). But on a whole I thought she had good intentions. However, season three comes around and not only does she sleep with her boss but tells her husband about it ! That's just cruel. I'm all about being a strong independent, woman but strong independent don't ride on their husbands coat tails and base all of their life decisions off of his. She wanted to leave, she could have.

controlling and spitefulness making her unintentionally selfish?

There were many points in the previous seasons where I felt Skylar was downright selfish. I do recognize that she has faced many injustices as a result of Walt's behavior but her actions often seem the most self-seeking of anyone's to me. Obviously there became a point where Walt was no longer 'doing it for his family' but every one of her decisions has appeared to have her own best interest in mind and most often done out of anger and the need for revenge and control. The most obvious one, IMO, was keeping Walt away from his kids just to hurt him with no regard to how it was affecting the children. She never once appeared willing to work things out and give their relationship a fair chance nor was she willing to discuss what was on her mind. Instead her focus always seemed to be on how she could control everyone and everything and punish anyone who got in her way. The only nice thing I recall her ever doing was insisting that Walt pay for Hanks treatment. If there are redeeming qualities to this woman the show never lets you see them. So I guess that's the part we can agree on.

Skylar = flawed human reacting to Walt's awfulness NOT selfish

Wow, I find it hard to believe you and I have been watching the same show!!

I definitely see it completely differently. Skylar didn't start acting out, attempting to get some level of control or satisfaction through things like smoking or having an affair until she was so frustrated with Walt and all of his bullshitting and lies that he kept refusing over and over and over again to admit to. So it may have seemed childish/selfish to just leave the house and not tell him where she had been, but at that point it was the only level of recourse she had: to attempt to give him some of his own medicine. Is it right? No. But was it Walt who instigated it all? Yes.

She didn't even start the affair with Ted until Walt confirmed that he did have a second cell phone that he continued to lie to her about.

When she finally found out about the meth business, she wanted to keep the kids away for their own protection NOT to just hurt Walt. And the worse Walt became, the more she feared for their children. Remember when she wanted to send Walt Jr to boarding school?

I almost never viewed her actions as selfish (or at all equivalent in immorality to Walts!), but always as a reaction to having to clean up Walt's mess or protect Walt from himself. She may have been in denial that someday they would have their normal lives back if she just kept everything in line until then, but I hardly view that as selfish.

She's the one who had to secure the car wash because it was a more believable business. She was the one who had to invent a gambling story in order to have a way to pay for Hank's treatment. She was the one who had to find a place to hoard Walt's money. She was the one who had to pester Walt about not spending money on frivolous things so as not to arise attention. She gave money to pay off Ted's taxes because if they were audited, they would most likely find out about Walt and the meth business, she didn't want any attention from anyone. She let herself be hated by Walt Jr. during the fights and separation with Walt, having him take that expensive car back for his b-day because she'd rather he hate her than he find out that his father is a meth cook. She was even the one who found the oncologist and forced Walt to get treatment in the first place.

She got no benefits from Walt's new way of life. She merely kept foolishly hanging on hoping that someday things would somehow go back to normal. And when she started to realize that actually won't happen she tried to down herself in their pool. And she couldn't just leave him at that point because of how much she had helped him and became too involved.

So, we're defending a woman

So, we're defending a woman who's cheated on her husband when shit hits the fan? Having Walt's wife flat out say, "I f**** [my boss]," I can see why ANYONE who's watched the show hate this piece of filth. I think Jesse AND Walter Jr. said it best... "bitch".

Is that better or worse than

Is that better or worse than defending man who murders people, lies, raped Skyler (face mask/robe scene in Season 2 I believe), verbally abuses his family and Jesse, runs a drug operation, poisoned a child, drives recklessly, and is the cause of the death of Mike, Hank, Gus, and several others? Oh, wait. But Skyler fucked Ted. So SHE'S the bitch.

Rape???

Oh please, he didn't rape her! He tried to have sex with her in the kitchen (admittedly it was kinda rough, but she'd been acting like she liked it) but when she was adamant that he stop, he stopped and went outside! Had he continued after she told him to stop, it would've become rape...

"She'd been acting like she

"She'd been acting like she liked it"

She said stop several times, and he didn't stop, mr. Creepy guy.

People who hate skyler more than walt, past the instinctive dramaturgically induced gut feeling of hate for skyler (because she is against the one we're originally rooting for)... that's a pretty good mirror of lack of intelligence and misogynism.

Boo hoo muh misogyny. Just

Boo hoo muh misogyny. Just because she's a strong independent woman doesn't mean she's likeable, at all.
Her actions aren't the problem, in fact she's probably one of the most morally justified character on the show, it doesn't matter, if anyone IRL talked to me the way she talks to people I'd spit them in the face. Her attitude is sh*t and it has been sh*t ever since the first episode.

YES

YES

yes.

I agree, you put my thoughts into words, English isn't my first language. Skyler annoyed me as well, but as events happen and everything shifts and shifts one feels more and more doubt on who to root for and as much as you hate it you have to re-evaluate how you really feel about everything. The characters were so human and not black and white. Which is what made the whole thing so interesting and the show so good to me!

I second that.

I second that.

Me too

Me too

What ????????????

So what your saying is she based all of her decisions off of her husband. And even though they were bad decisions she is excused because her husband was worse? She is an adult, if you cant excuse Walt's behavior don't excuse hers.

I don't even want to look at Skyler.....

"She never once appeared willing to work things out and give their relationship a fair chance nor was she willing to discuss what was on her mind. Instead her focus always seemed to be on how she could control everyone and everything and punish anyone who got in her way. "

TOTALLY agree what you said up there!!!!!! she annoying till I almost want to fast forward everytime she is showing. how is cheating help? the look on her face is totally want to punish anyone who give her hard time, not because she want to do anything RIGHT. she is a total control freak! Never really think what Walt really want. I think I would go crazy if I have a partner like that...control every aspect in life and leave you no choice.

If you make a choice not following her INSTRUCTION, she will find a way to punish you, what kind wife is that.........Rather die fast then slow death with someone like that!

She did really well in acting, because I really do hate the character....

i hate her

i'm not going to watch any TV show ever in my life....coz when we see we get addict and later on after few seasons story writer starts bitching....

I want so badly to root for

I want so badly to root for Skyler because I hate Walt and how abusive he is, but she is just such a poorly written character. It is clear that her behavior only acts as a pressure gauge to show what is going on in Walts life. In the beginning of the series when Walt is feeling powerless she is pressuring him to seek treatment or to take money from his former partner. Then as Walt gains more power in the drug business you see the power dynamic in their relationship change, as Walt starts to experience how difficult the drug business Skyler starts to realize that he is hiding something and she becomes just another problem standing in his way. As the show goes on and she finds out what he has been doing she tries to revolt against him but in order to establish Walt as some sort of genius they make her too stupid to really be able to do anything. Instead her actions end up looking like childish tantrums designed just to hurt him. Though she has a couple of bad-ass moments like when she gets Walts former boss to sell her the car wash, I can't really blame anyone for not liking her though it completely blows my mind how anyone still roots for Walt.

There is a lot of Skylar

There is a lot of Skylar hate, but I think a lot of it stems from her role as the antagonist in the series. From the beginning, she has worked against Walt, knowingly or unknowingly. And he used to be a deeply sympathetic character. Plus Skylar was unfaithful to him, while he had cancer. So that was pretty bleak. Now their roles have shifted, her imperfections look pretty tame compared to the monster he has become.

However, some fans do make horrible remarks about Skylar that go beyond simply disliking a character that sound horribly misogynistic. I don't think it's a majority of fans, they just pop out online.

people dislike a fictional

people dislike a fictional character from a novel - yeah that’s GOT TO BE MISOGYNY, what else? It’s the only explanation.

Ladies, if you want to see misogyny EVERYWHERE you’ll find it everywhere.

People hate a lot of characters (mostly male character btw.) for a lot of different reasons. People hate skyler because she is annoying - that’s it. Grow up and get over it.

First of all, Breaking Bad is

First of all, Breaking Bad is not a novel, it's a TV show. Also, the fact that Skylar could sometimes be annoying, especially in the first few seasons is true. That is exactly the point of this article. She is somewhat annoying, but NOT a murdering, meth dealer. Yet certain people have this vitriolic hatred for her, yet not for Walt, or Jesse or Hank. THAT IS MISOGYNY. Also, referring to whomever as "ladies" and saying "grow up and get over it" are classic misogynist moves. Misogyny is still VERY prevalent in society, as illustrated by your response.

Wrong. She'd be a horrible

Wrong. She'd be a horrible selfish whore whether she were female, male or neuter. Try getting through life without your victim crutch, you might actually learn something.

" "people dislike a fictional

"

"people dislike a fictional character from a novel - yeah that’s GOT TO BE MISOGYNY, what else? It’s the only explanation.

Ladies, if you want to see misogyny EVERYWHERE you’ll find it everywhere.

People hate a lot of characters (mostly male character btw.) for a lot of different reasons. People hate skyler because she is annoying - that’s it. Grow up and get over it."

This

For me there are a few

For me there are a few reasons to dislike Skyler (Infidelity, covering for her boss, taking Walts money to give it to her boss), but the real reason I don't like her is actions towards the start of season 1.

In the first episode she bosses her husband around, fair enough. But then he gets cancer that looks terminal.
She then proceeds to bully him, along with the rest of the family. She was the centre of a group of people who were looking to FORCE Walt to have treatment. I found her actions selfish.

Forcing him to have treatment meant he had to find some way to pay for it.

After this, I was done with her. Just like I was done with Walter when he poisoned that kid.

People keep using Skyler's

People keep using Skyler's "infidelity" as an excuse to bash her. She slept with Ted after she had tried, to no avail, to get Walt to leave. Walt forced himself on her in more ways than one. I can imagine that she was disgusted with him at that point and so she had an affair. Under those circumstances, big deal! The character of Skyler is by no means a saint. She is at a certain point complicit in the situation, but she did not start it, Walt did. The problem is with certain people who want to make it seem that she is just as bad as or worse than Walt. That is what Anna Gunn is addressing in her article. That Skyler is being judged by a different standard than Walt, and pretty much every other character. Because she is a woman, a wife and a mother certain people can't handle it when she doesn't just go along with what her husband wants. Holding women to a different standard than men and trying to punish them more harshly for minor character flaws or trying to make those flaws seem tatamount to a male characters crimes of murder, that IS mysoginy.

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yes, thank you!!! It's

yes, thank you!!!

It's especially infuriating when people stick up for Jesse and attempt to rationalize his innocence because of Walt's manipulation and mind games with him, but is that not what he is doing to Skylar? Skylar certainly knows Walt better and is smarter than Jesse, but her denial of the situation makes her believe Walt's claims of "no one getting hurt" and the "family will be safe". These constant claims to her are what made her believe if she could just help Walt hide his criminal activities, that they could eventually have their normal lives back.

Then when Walt's ego kicks in and he hates the idea of Gail or Gus Fring taking credit for his product or for the infamous "bad ass" Heisenburg name, he gets Hank back on his investigation, further putting him and his family in danger, and telling Skylar that he is "the one who knocks" to make Skylar realize that he is to be feared. By then she is in too deep to leave, just like Jesse (except its even harder for her to leave because she has kids and a DEA agent family member who she can't make suspicious), so she has no choice but to keep going.

Word!

Word!

Skyler's infidelity

Why is Skyler's infidelity a problem? Everybody else in the world may be misogynistic neanderthals who believe that being married to a woman means you own her sexually. I don't know. But I can tell you why it is the turning point for me.

It has nothing to do with her being a woman or the sex aspect of it. In sleeping with Ted, Skyler is making a choice. She is choosing Ted over Walt. So what made her reject Walt? 1) He lied to her. 2) He did something illegal. So instead she chose Ted who: 1) Lied to her 2) Did something illegal. So why did she choose Ted again?

If Skyler had been Walt's brother who kicked him out of the house and took Ted as a housemate instead, I think I would still be angry at the betrayal. The fact that there is sex involved probably heighten the sense of betrayal because of the sense of intimacy associated with it.

Skyler's "infidelity" is not an excuse to bash her. It shows her as a disloyal person who is willing to throw out a 17 year old relationship with someone, only to start up a new relationship with someone else who (at that point in the plot line) does not seem to be morally superior. The relationship with Ted totally invalidates her reasons for leaving Walt.

woah I have a very different viewpoint

Skyler is my favorite character for exactly the reasons others have disparaged her so. Lady Macbeth was also a favorite heroine of mine, but I digress...

it seems as though everyone in the article and comments thread are ignoring the fact that she finally does leave Walt, sever ties, and assert her needs. she could easily have gone with Walt when he fleas to start his new anonymous life in New Hampshire, but she DOESN'T and also finally stands up to him, WITH A KNIFE.

while Walt is delusionally "doing everything for the family" Skyler actually is making all her decisions in this manner, flawed or otherwise. I assumed she was drinking and smoking not to "harm the baby" but to trigger a miscarriage to not have to bring an innocent baby in this life. that whole plotline felt very reminiscent of Beloved to me.

i also see her main goal to be to put her children first. she knows how much Walt Jr. idolizes Walt and thus tries everything in her power to try not to disappoint her son. she knows her son and daughter will need money after Walt dies, either because of his poor choices, his being involved with the wrong people, or his cancer finally catching up with him.

yes, I see areas in which she has also been corrupted by Walt's choices, misled by his manipulation, and also corrupted by the money. what normal human being wouldn't be in such a situation? i think, as someone correctly identified in this tread, Skyler is a type of FOIL to jesse. whereas jesse is an absolute mess, Skyler is able to hold down a job, raise 2 kids and somehow keep her life functional in the midst of Whirlwind Walt's antics and abuse.

I think people should give Skyler, and the writers who write her a bit more credit. Anna Gunn also received an emmy this year, no doubt because of her playing such a difficult character to play (within every choice she makes that is deemed "bad" by Skyler detractors, you can clearly see the choices and motivations flashing behind her eyes because of the way Gunn so skillfully and subtly conveys this). Yes I realize we live in a world where patriarchy and impossible standards for women color everything, both the writing for this show and the show's majority audience not being exempt from this, but I think the people who hate on Skyler or hate on the way she is written miss the point about what her character is really about. she is a tragic heroine but she is also a strong, leading woman, and we need more of these.

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Skyler is my favorite

Skyler is my favorite character for exactly the reasons others have disparaged her so. Lady Macbeth was also a favorite heroine of mine, but I digress...

it seems as though everyone in the article and comments thread are ignoring the fact that she finally does leave Walt, sever ties, and assert her needs. she could easily have gone with Walt when he fleas to start his new anonymous life in New Hampshire, but she DOESN'T and also finally stands up to him, WITH A KNIFE.

while Walt is delusionally "doing everything for the family" Skyler actually is making all her decisions in this manner, flawed or otherwise. I assumed she was drinking and smoking not to "harm the baby" but to trigger a miscarriage to not have to bring an innocent baby in this life. that whole plotline felt very reminiscent of Beloved to me.

i also see her main goal to be to put her children first. she knows how much Walt Jr. idolizes Walt and thus tries everything in her power to try not to disappoint her son. she knows her son and daughter will need money after Walt dies, either because of his poor choices, his being involved with the wrong people, or his cancer finally catching up with him.

yes, I see areas in which she has also been corrupted by Walt's choices, misled by his manipulation, and also corrupted by the money. what normal human being wouldn't be in such a situation? i think, as someone correctly identified in this tread, Skyler is a type of FOIL to jesse. whereas jesse is an absolute mess, Skyler is able to hold down a job, raise 2 kids and somehow keep her life functional in the midst of Whirlwind Walt's antics and abuse.

I think people should give Skyler, and the writers who write her a bit more credit. Anna Gunn also received an emmy this year, no doubt because of her playing such a difficult character to play (within every choice she makes that is deemed "bad" by Skyler detractors, you can clearly see the choices and motivations flashing behind her eyes because of the way Gunn so skillfully and subtly conveys this). Yes I realize we live in a world where patriarchy and impossible standards for women color everything, both the writing for this show and the show's majority audience not being exempt from this, but I think the people who hate on Skyler or hate on the way she is written miss the point about what her character is really about. she is a tragic heroine but she is also a strong, leading woman, and we need more of these.

Right on. Remember when

Right on. Remember when Skyler said, "I have to protect this family from the man protecting this family?" Exactly.

you like skyle? waw why

you like skyle? waw why because she is bi.....h? she annoying as hell can not keep secret, make affair on her husband and there is nothing good in her and her sister, i will be more happy in he killer her because she relay deserve it.

I hated Skyler from the first

I hated Skyler from the first episode when she half assed gave him a b-day handy and didn't even bother to pay attention. If I was Walt, I would have just walked away. It just seemed like their entire marriage was about her and what she wanted. Remember folks, he gave up his entire future for her (who was just a waitress) and their newborn kid. The man could have been a rock-star in the chemistry world with a Nobel Prize and millions to his name. Instead his life became one long slog through mediocrity... and he never once complained about it. In thanks he gets a nagging wife who doesn't pay attention to him.

For me, that was underscored when Walt reveals to her that he has cancer. She immediately makes the whole situation about her, her feelings and what she wants. Sure, Walt starts acting weird and doesn't want to talk, but the man is DYING for pete's sake. It took an "intervention" blowing up in her face, where Walt finally gets to have a say for her to realize that gee, her husband has thoughts and feelings of his own too.

My other big gripe is that she seems completely content to not work, just sit back and sponge off of Walt's paycheck (before the baby). They have a special needs son, but he's more than capable of taking care of most things for himself now, which means that Skyler is content to just sit on her ass. There is absolutely no reason for her not to work.

In many ways, it's her constant nagging that pushes him to a life of crime. Her almost constant nagging him about how he has a family to think about while forcing him into the most expensive oncologist ever which will leave his family destitute leaves him little choice but desperate solutions.

That's why I hate Skyler.

me too i can not imaging

me too i can not imaging skyler

I hate that I had to read

I hate that I had to read THIS far into the comments to see these remarks! This us spot on as to the hatred for Skylar. I understand marriage and martial sex life can hit rough patches and droughts, but this woman was so self-absorbed into her own selfishness that she couldn't even set aside an eBay auction for a moment of intimacy with her husband on his birthday...50th birtday at that...that set the tone for me as a viewer. It was like she wasn't truly on her husbands side from the start.

I like your analysis of his stunted potential as a chemist due to adopting a family life.

I also like the point another poster made about Walt and Ted...both lied to her, both were involved in equally illegal activity...I want to feel bad that Skylar gets the short end of the stick in her refuge sex with Ted, but I can't for all the reasons that everyone has already posted...especially the one that I am replying.

Skylar is just terrible....smoking while pregnant....how can anyone or anything justify that behavior.....and be okay with it.

Aww she thinks that we hate

Aww she thinks that we hate her because Walt mistreated her. No we hated her because she looks crazier than her murdering husband & like a man. (A drug kingpin deserves so much more) Not to mention her sister looks like a witch & Hank was a short fat bald man with bad jokes. She is the reason there was a DEA agent in Walts house. I don't think this was an accident either. Jessie, Saul, Mike, Walt are all far more likable characters. If you're not a tight ass you'll understand this was meant to make the show believable. Why would a man with a perfect life & family (reguardless of cancer) cook meth. His wife & kids never made him feel alive & that kept him in the business.

Why I Hate Skylar

I can't really comment on who is the most "justified" in Breaking Bad; everyone in Breaking Bad is pretty morally questionable. I can, however, tell you why I hate Skylar White. Skylar is a petty person with no self control and no ability to think past her own immediate needs.

I think one of the quintessential moments for the the Skylar haters out there is one of the first scenes where Walt falsely confesses to using pot and her response is to shut him out for days and to impotently threaten Pinkman. Marrying someone does not give you substantial control over someone's body or the substances they put into it or where they go. Another sore point, I think, is Skylar's freeze out of her sister over her shoplifting.

What if Walt were to respond to Skylar's dodgy behavior in season 2 by threatening or interrogating her acquaintances/Marie? What if Walt responded to his brother in law's repeated rude behavior by shutting him out until he apologized for "embarrassing" him? We would grow tired of Walt very quickly in the same way that I'm just sort of tired of Skylar's pettiness. Now an argument can definitely be made that Skylar is dealing with real issues under the surface and reacts this way because she is under pressure. Sure, I agree; but she reacts in really annoying and crappy ways. People are allowed to dislike a fictional character that is annoying and crappy without being sexist; and honestly I think Skylar's character falls apart hardest on the feminist side of things.

Sure, she's a woman who tries to control her life, but she is absolutely TERRIBLE at it. Walt finds himself in a wide variety of tight spots, all of which he deftly escapes with his seemingly magical powers of reason. Skylar's coping mechanisms consist of the silent treatment and loudly demanding apologies. I'm not all the way through the the show yet, but, so far, she hasn't tried to honestly communicate with Walt or investigate his behavior at all. Why doesn't she follow Pinkman one day? He's not really that hard to find. Why not play it tactful one day to try to get Walt to open up? As far as I can tell, Skylar is basically a child in a woman's body. She has a lot more in common with Pinkman than she does with Walt in that she lacks any kind of foresight or strategy. This would place her more solidly in the "villain" role, but I think people would hate her substantially less. Let's just imagine a different take on BB where Walt is the abusive villain husband and Skylar is the heroine overcoming adversity: she is the crappiest, most impotent heroine ever. As far as we can tell from the show, Skylar basically sits at home all day or drives around smoking her baby to death while her crazy husband makes meth. While that may be somewhat true to the reality of drug manufacturing, it reads more like a depressing PSA than an actual story with plot.

Yeah, I don't really like her, but it's not her fault

I agree that part of the problem is definitely that the show doesn't put a lot of energy into developing Skyler as a character or showing us her motivations -- from a structural perspective she's there to be a complication in Walt's life and she isn't given the layered treatment that Walter and Jesse and a lot of the other male characters are.

In the first season, I did find her annoying because she was always trying to tell Walt how to feel and act, and I thought that was a bad way for someone (male or female) to treat a spouse. As the series went on though, I started to feel like the show as really PUSHING me to find her annoying, and I took a step back, probably in season two, to ask myself why I disliked her so much (partly because I came to the show late and I was forewarned that everyone hated this character for some reason and that there was some kind of debate about that). At that point, I realised that what we were seeing was a situation where Walt was lying to her face every day, and she could tell that he was lying to her face, and was trying to find out the truth... which is what made her "annoying" from his perspective and an obstacle from the script's perspective. I decided that it wasn't really that annoying anymore, from my perspective, since married couples SHOULD tell each other the truth about important things, and she really did have a right to know what he was doing and a right to decide whether or not she wanted to stay with him, knowing the truth.

Later, when she knows that he's a drug dealer (or whatever he is), she becomes "annoying" because she wants to be involved in making the decisions about what they're going to do. It's annoying to Walt, because it interferes with the fantasy he has of himself as Mr. Hyde, the big masculine drug lord, and because he can't stand the way that she sees him as being somebody other than that (this is where he yells "I am the one who knocks!!!" and stuff). Again, she's an obstacle from the script's perspective, because she's blocking Walter from his goals, but, from my perspective, I'm forced to say she's being pretty reasonable in her expectation that they should communicate with each other and make mutual decisions about things that effect both of them.

What's interesting about their relationship is that the way Walter (whom I always thought was a total jerk to everyone, Jesse just as much as Skyler) treats her, and the way he demands that she behave, is reflective of this toxic version of masculinity that he takes on once he goes full Heisenberg. He seems to feel that he's entitled to just do whatever he wants and Skyler should shut up and be grateful for it. That he's entitled to have a family even if his family doesn't want to be around him anymore. He wants being a drug kingpin to be his own private little world, and he wants Skyler to stay out of his way -- he starts to see her as a THING that's in his way. Because of that, the show has to want the same thing as Walter, to a certain degree -- sort of like how the Dexter (the show) has to want Dexter (the character) to murder people and get away with it.

Breaking Bad (again, kind of like Dexter) also muddies the waters by drifting back and forth between framing Walt as an interesting character in an intense situation whom we may or may not like, and framing him as this super awesome dude to be admired. I really enjoy the show,when it's Walt as an interesting character in an intense situation who's basically unlikable, but also understandable in his petty, self-serving motivations -- I feel more conflicted about it when we're supposed to uncritically accept the idea that Walt is fantastic and anyone who harshes his buzz is the worst.

Honestly? I don't really like

Honestly? I don't really like ANY of the Breaking Bad characters. Sure, most of them are pretty complex and well-written/acted, but I just can't bring myself to like any of them.

The 2nd Cell Phone

very interesting discussion here, enjoying reading it. my comment is about the second cellphone and skyler's affair. it has been brought up by several commenters that skyler doesn't have an affair until she after walt admits to the 2nd cell, as though this justifies it. yes, a secret cellphone is obviously an indication that walt is up to something deceptive. but it is unclear to me how "Proof of some unknown deceptive activity" automatically warrants running out and having an extramarital affair. if the thinking is that skyler's assumption is that the cellphone revelation, in skyler's mind, equals "walt's having an affair", then this is assumption makes sense. but i didn't see anybody state this.

but, even if i am correct that the comments in question are in fact assuming that skyler suspects walt is having an affair, this still doesn't justify her having an affair in retaliation. not because having affairs are categorically wrong, but because a suspicion of wrongdoing isn't PROOF of wrongdoing.

PS: a plea for civility: i would like to also say that it is unhelpful when commenters add things like "...and if you think X or Y, then you're an idiot..." if the point you want to make is actually a good one, then it should stand on its own merits. saying that anybody who disagrees with your point must be stupid actually has the reverse effect from what you intend, and among thoughtful intelligent readers, your "stock price" will fall.

Advice to Walter wannabes

Those who want to be like Walter need to learn from his mistakes and Michael Corleone's success. Walt tried to talk to his wife and then had to lie to her about his business to keep her from being suspicious. In contrast, Michael Corleone never discussed business at all with the women of the family. Neither did Michael (except when his sister later joined the inner circle).

The fact that Skylar would be suspicious shows she was not the type of woman to be married to a crime boss. In contrast, Michael Corleone's approach was to not allow his wife to know anything about his business. And, she knew and understood that arrangement. Only once did she ever question him openly, and the one question that she asked, he lied as an answer.

Corleone's mother did not want to know about the business and actively made sure that she didn't know (gather up kids to allow the men to talk).

Now, granted, these are very male-centric crime endeavors and families. However, if you want to be like Walt and want to also talk to your wife, change your name to Clyde and make sure she is named Bonnie (Ie someone who is into it crime as much as you).

Skylar

I didnt like her much either. Its nothing to do with strong female characters is all to do with her morale compass.

With regards Walter, you can argue that what hes doing isnt right, but his reasons for doing it are all based on a love for his family, afterall, it was Skylar that made him do the cancer treatment to begin with, Walter didnt want to do it and wanted to die. It was Skylar that pushed him to ask for money from his former girlfriend and mate, again, walter didnt want to do this. And pretty much from the off Skylar did nothing but push him into treatments and talks with doctors that you could tell walter didnt want.

And then, in typical woman fashion, shes not happy. After pushing Walt to do all these things, which results in huge pressure on Walt to find the money and eventually start cooking the meth, she finds out all these things and then blames HIM for it all!! thats why i dont like her character. Its not 'strong woman' its just a bloody typical woman. They change their minds too much and it gets on mens nerves. In fact Skylar did it so much during the show i was really hoping walt would turn into this full on drug lord and pop her off, she was that annoying.

Theres nothing to love about Skylar, shes cold, she comes across like she cares but ultimately shes only ever thinking of herself, even when she had the affair, there was absolutely no need for it. If anything, Walt should have put a bullet through her head and be done with it at this point and just had loads of money and loads of women.

I was annoyed that Walt never killed her, i would have loved that, she was so two faced throughout the whole series.

I couldn't agree more (and

I couldn't agree more (and I'm a woman). I've only started watching the series over the past week and am up to s03e05 - and I must say, I've grown to really dislike her unreasonable and 'I want it my way so shut up' nature, especially in season 3 that I'm watching now, but to be honest, Skyler's character irritated me right from the start. I noticed people talking about strong female characters, and I am all for strong female characters, but being pushy, demanding, spiteful, unreasonable, manipulative and unfaithful are not traits of a 'strong woman'.

I couldn't agree more

I couldn't agree more (and I'm a woman). I've only started watching the series over the past week and am up to s03e05 - and I must say, I've grown to really dislike her unreasonable and 'I want it my way so shut up' nature, especially in season 3 that I'm watching now, but to be honest, Skyler's character irritated me right from the start. I noticed people talking about strong female characters, and I am all for strong female characters, but being pushy, demanding, spiteful, unreasonable, manipulative and unfaithful are not traits of a 'strong woman'.

Walt's former colleague

Walt's former colleague offered him the money. He did not have to ask for it. Actually, he was offered a high-paying job as a sort of "cover" to allow Walt to keep some of his pride. But no, Walt was to proud to accept it. He had a son and a pregnant wife but he just could not swallow his pride and accept it. So then he decided to go into the drug business. Considering him to be an inteligent man, he must have known a life of crime would eventually put his wife and children in danger (as it eventually did). So much for thinking about his family.
And of course she was not happy. She was his wife. She knew him, she knew he was lying to her face repeatedly. She also knew he would have prefered to just die and leave her with the kids, not even thinking about the possibility of treatment. How could she be happy?
And I'm not even going into "typical woman behaviour". It is absolutely insulting.

Walt's former colleague

Walt's former colleague offered him the money. He did not have to ask for it. Actually, he was offered a high-paying job as a sort of "cover" to allow Walt to keep some of his pride. But no, Walt was to proud to accept it. He had a son and a pregnant wife but he just could not swallow his pride and accept it. So then he decided to go into the drug business. Considering him to be an inteligent man, he must have known a life of crime would eventually put his wife and children in danger (as it eventually did). So much for thinking about his family.
And of course she was not happy. She was his wife. She knew him, she knew he was lying to her face repeatedly. She also knew he would have prefered to just die and leave her with the kids, not even thinking about the possibility of treatment. How could she be happy?
And I'm not even going into "typical woman behaviour". It is absolutely insulting.

walt vs skyler

I myself hated Walter White with a passion he was manipulative and he played on peoples emotions especially Jessies I loved Skyler for the fact she seen thru his bullcrap..I did not like Lydiashe was too shifty..and Marie too bossy but i loved Hank and hated that he died and Steve Gomez too it was just sad.Walts family got drug thru hell to in the end lose everything

I have just finished watching

I have just finished watching breaking bad season 1&2 i loved it ...but as i watched s03e03 i started hating the script of the show...i mean there is no end to story....it's a completely fucked up family...and a fucked up lover.....

but as i have watched nearly half of the show i have to finish this shit.....

till date HIMYM is the only show which i never hated even a single episode...As you know there is difference between "boring but you can still watch" and "not at all interesting"...

Is there another reason to hate Skylar White?

Full disclosure - I've only seen the 4.5 seasons available on Netflix, and haven't followed internet forums enough to know whether this idea has been argued or debunked. But, is it possible that Skylar herself was the cause of Walter White's lung cancer? She was, after all, a smoker before Holly came along. Secondhand smoke is linked to lung cancer. For that matter, smoking during pregnancy is also linked to low birthweight, which increases the risk of conditions such as CP. I will stop short, however, of blaming her for Walt's selling his shares in Grey Matter prematurely...or for beheading Tortuga. ;-)

Maybe its just me but I find

Maybe its just me but I find my main problem with Skylar is the unique way that she threatens the plot. She is the only person who is trying to maintain Walter White, where as the rest of the pushes towards the creation of Heisenberg.

This is especially prevalent in the first season where Skylar shows she has very little respect for Walt's wishes about his treatment process (or lack there of). This is especially important in Breaking Bad for one of the main themes it represents. Breaking Bad is a story of how Walt is a very emasculated man who feels like he has no control over his life. Through entering the drug trade Walt twists and feels more masculine, more in control, as he feels empowered by being the best in his field.

But then in comes Skylar who makes Walt, and the narrative, feel like its running backwards as he has someone pushing him back, wanting him to give up the control he's so desperately longed for. Is it that fact that she's a woman that makes her so hated? Personally I don't think so, I would argue that its because of how she threatens the narrative.

We can't hate how Walter threatens the narrative, because his transformation is the narrative.

We don't hate how Hank threatens the narrative because he's part of the thrill of the genre, the connection with the law that demands duplicity, intelligence, cunning. Because of this relationship Hank actually adds to Walt's transformation because it makes Walt feel powerful to be able to pull the wool of the eyes of a star DEA agent.

This is the weakness of Skylar's character, not that she's just another antagonist in the story and we hate her because she's female. I think she's disliked because she is the only plot element that makes Walt feel as though he needs to give up Heisenberg, rather than embrace his transformation even further.

This, so much this!

This, so much this!

Using "this" as a reply is

Using "this" as a reply is lazy and stupid. Just type "I agree," or better yet, don't reply at all.

Bull

I keep reading that Walt struggled with Skyler with a knife. Last time I checked, SHE was the WHO ATTACKED WALT! What is a man supposed to do if a woman attacks him with a knife? Let her slice his stomach and spill his guts out? Walt's family should be hated by all viewers. They are backstabbers snitches. Hank asked to be murdered because he could not just let it go. In my eyes Walt's family was horrible to him. He had already decided to stay out. They knew Walt was going to die soon. They should have just let it go and wait for Walt to die and period.

The misogyny rampant in these

The misogyny rampant in these posts harkens back to America decades or even 100 years ago. I suspect that many Skylar haters are either not raised by Americans or were raised by throwbacks to a much more doodle-brained era in our history. Somehow, these haters of strong women didn't get the message that women aren't inferior to men. And no, it's not that Skylar had an affair - the tube and movies are rampant with people having affairs. So these guys would be writing posts on a daily basis about all those dirty deeds. But they aren't. Skylar has a powerful presence - a mature woman presence - a strong woman presence. And that makes these guys and some shrimp-like gals come unglued because the gap between Skylar and themselves makes their own choice to wallow in immaturity so much more visible. The Skylar haters also see things that frighteningly aren't there. My guess is because their brains are fried by the adrenaline rush they give themselves when Skylar's in a scene. It's frightening that these guys invent things that they believe Skylar did and then foam with anger about it. It's like the scene in Schindler's List when the crazed NAZI Geoth is talking to his Jewish maid and believes she's responding to his statements though she never says a word - he projects a personality onto her and then responds to his own projection. So wherever you Skylar haters are from - even if you're native-born Americans, you're view of Skylar is "out of time" and you come across as weirdly mean and ignorant. And here's more news: accountant's would know more than the CEO about accounting unless the CEO has taken the time to know that side of the business. And yes, many people who are under the CEO are often smarter than the CEO. Once again, if you're from this nation and have worked here, you already know that. Finally, the most jaw dropping attitudes in these posts revolve around the belief that drug dealing for family supersedes ethics - as though ethics exists as an option in one's life that has no particularly great value. It makes me suspect that either there is more than one human species on this planet or people are able to give themselves lobotomies just by how they choose to think and therefore fashion their brain cells. If you have to be "told" that ethics supersedes everything, if someone needs to explain to you why that is true, you are a lost soul and need to pour your focus into becoming human.

Is your post actually for

Is your post actually for real? Seriously, wow.

Just because Skyler is a "strong woman" does not make her a likeable character and hating on Skyler does not make someone an instant misogynist.

I personally started to dislike Skyler from the beginning when she gave Walt that half-arsed hand job and completely belittled his opinions and choices on whether or not to have cancer treatment.

For the record, I'm a woman, and I'm a fan of strong female characters in films and TV (e.g. Buffy), although I think it's becoming a bit of a caricature to be honest.

Also, no I was not raised by Americans and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Get over your superiority complex already!

what's misogyny got to do with not liking a certain character?

I've only watched seasons 1 and 2 and started really disliking skylars character so ran a search on whether others felt the same and came across this article. It has nothing to do with strong character, misogyny etc...I didn't even know about the affair before reading this. Of that is true then the writers obviously want us to dislike her reinforcing the initial issues with her character

1. I find the way she talks to people condescending example the credit card thing
2. She's always on a moral high horse not thinking about understanding why others have taken a course of action and always making a judgement on the actions or making some silly assumption for the reasons. Frankly find that quite petty and irritating in people in general. e.g. the tiara thing. She ever thought of asking her sister why she did it, isn't it obvious from the start that Marie's bossy character, her talking incessantly, her kleptomania is a way of filling a void she has in her life i.e. no kids?
3. She says let's talk it really means listen to my problems, my issues and my feelings. Too many examples.
4. Related to point 4 above, it seems to me Walt had given up talking about any of his issues because he has to listen and not say anything. Hank i believe is in a similar situation. Not being able to express his fears/issues and always having to put a brave face because of overly needy characters they are with.
5. Drama queen - whats with that stupid pillow thing! that was irritating. By the power of greyskull I have the pillow!!!! wtf man.
6. Sometimes people have issues to face and want time to reflect. one example of these issues may be cancer. And sometimes when you are facing some issues you may want to try something different. Experiences that you may have wanted to but not done earlier.Example Marijuana. Why the nagging over a bit of weed and walt taking some time on his own?He may not want to talk especially if everything will then turn into how sky feels and what junior may think. The man may be dying so let him be ffs.
7. Finally having said all that i think i understand her, she has no support system and is on her own and probably lonely. Her only other contact with the outside world is her sister who is as needy as her. Doesn't make her more likeable. just saying i understand her.
8. The silent treatment - walt and marie got it. anything more bloody irritating than that. u got an issue talk about it openly and sort it out. people that do this silent business = petty and bitchy
9. Those claiming misogyny- please i also dislike traits of some of the other male characters. Walt Jr who i think is also a bit of a nag and has similar characteristics to the mom. Lets talk, why you not talking to me bla bla. Just chill. Your 15. And Hank's overbearing "machoness". chill were not at college here. swearing a lot and silly banter doesn't make you more of a man.
10. I can also see issues with Walt i.e. ego and pride which i can see developing into further issues as the series goes on (some spoilers from the comments above gave me hints) and its obvious that he will end up liking this meth business and it won't be just for his family but for himself. I don't know whether i will like him or not in the end. Certainly sometimes feel he talks down to Jesse. May get worse. However if he's bad or an antihero or selfish or whatever doesn't make skylar likeable.

Finally, think of it this way would any one of you guys defending her on here, ever want to chill with her? like just chill, or have a beer or watch a movie or just meet up one to one and have dinner or just coffee and talk about things? i doubt it. I would run and wouldn't want that kind of person to know anything about my life because everything will become drama.

I think the revealing line in

I think the revealing line in the show as to why so many fans dislike Skylar is when Walt tells her to 'climb down out of my ***'. Skylar dominates her family. She isn't a motherly lioness or some kind of loving matriarch. She dominates - purposely and selfishly in the same way that the rest of the world has seemingly mistreated Walt. It drives Walt Jr. to idealize his father and admire Hank for being the "tough guy" he wishes his father would be. It drives Walt to become the (clearly bad) guy that he becomes. It's clear in the story and necessary for it. Walt's emasculation isn't just professional, it's also domestic. It's what makes Walt who he is. It outlines him in a way that we can all empathize with the desire to regain the power and vitality of his younger days. Without that early conflict of Walt vs. everyone, the story becomes less tantalizing. Skylar's character isn't about Skylar, it's about Walt.

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This is easy, Skylar was a

This is easy, Skylar was a money grubbing, whooore! She stuck around for the money rather than leaving and keeping her dignity. She cheated on Walt rather than taking the high road and leaving him. This makes her an immoral worm. Walt too lost points as the show rolled on when he began excusing his murderous actions. Jessie was the real hero and victim of the story.

I think Skyler is a very

I think Skyler is a very independent and powerful woman and she is great. Every woman should cheat on her husband. I am a feminist and a stupid cunt. Bye.

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Reality

In reality, if a mom didn't protect her children from their drug manufacturing father they would be considered awful, so surely Skyler "protecting this family from the man who protects this family" is in the right yes? Walt is the one who originally put his family in danger. He could of accepted money from Gretchen and Elliot and saved all of this controversy, but where is the TV show in that, right?

ok, i'll share my thoughts

ok, i'll share my thoughts about the skyler issue.

how many friggin awesome, cool-cats and badass charachters are there on this show? Walt is F-ing badass, Gus is F-ing badass, Mike is F-ing badass, Hector is F-ing badass, hell, even Jesse and Hank have their badass moments. the audience, especially the male audience, loves these charachters. Why?

well, imo, it's simple. cos people love badass mofos. they turn any old random, whiney, moral drama to an epic, memorable story that blows your hair away. their attitude totally pumps up the adrenaline, the excitement, and salvages the show from those pathetic cut-my-veins emotional drama moments, which make you want to get up and leave.

Skyler. ok, while she has my sympathy as a positive charachter in the plot, sadly, she is an adrenaline killer. whenever the audience is psyched up by some awesome badass scene, she comes up and preaches or frowns it down.

why is this show so memorable? not because it portrays how a man can change from A to Z, nobody's probably gonna remember that. it's fuckin memorable for the scenes like: I am the one who knocks, or gus saying: come fight with me and die; say my name; magnets, bitch!; this is not meth... etc etc etc.
see my point? F-ing salivating badass, awwww!!!!

now Skyler has got her badass moments, and those are the times I really root for her and want her to win, but the moments when she is actually badass, and not annoying, are quite rare.

Same problem with Marie or Lydia. they're both so terribly annoying. they cut down the mad energy of the show and always introduce another low, blow in the balls scene... and neither of them says or does ONE badass thing in the entire 5 seasons.

I have a hard time thinking about breaking bad as a drama series with some action scenes. to me, it's an action thriller with some deplorable drama scenes, which gave me a hard time to finish watching whatever episode.

if i wanted to watch drama, i'd go to the hallmark channel.

so, the issue is mainly this. Skyler is not badass enough to gain most of the audience's appeal.

this may sound sexist, why are the male charachters badass and likeable and the female charachters just whiney ball-and-chains that make you grunt? .... but that's not what i'm saying. it's just the way things are on this show. and there are many male charachters which are total nuisances and which the public really doesnt like as well.

AND... that meth-head lady with really bad teeth that crushes her husband's head.... SHE IS DA BOMB, YO!

just my thoughts, kudos

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Commenters hating on Skylar make me sad

All of the commenters hating on skyler here make me sad...and a little ashamed.

Every negative thing she has done has been in response to something Walt did. She took a turn for bad, and I stopped rooting for her at that point. But I never hated her. She never treated Walt poorly until he not only lied to her but continued to do so.
She was wonderfully supportive of him when he was first diagnosed and that only changed when he withdrew from her and lied to her. Even then, she gave him another chance. But what did Walt do? He lied again. And she knew it.

Skyler is too smart to not realize he's up to no good, so she cuts him off- just like he had done to her. He showed no signs of changing anything, gave her no hope of reconciliation. So she cut him off too. She had to. And that's just early on, before she finds out what is really going on.

But already people hated her. And why? Because she was too smart to be fooled and too strong to stand for it? If people only hated her after the cheating it might make sense, but that's not the case for most people. At a point now that I think guys just don't like seeing a woman stand up in the face of a mans strong, willful, immoral brilliance. He's a badass, and she should just be glad she has money and safety, etc? I guess? I honestly can't fathom why anyone would hate Skyler- or at least hate her more than Walt.

She does help him in the end and takes a dark turn, but it's mostly for her kids sake. It's not right, and it disappointed me. But even if you don't believe her motivations, she is at worst a branch from Walts twisted tree of immorality.

I hear over and over again about how "she cheated on him!" This smacks of misogyny. As if all some people care about in a woman is that they submissively accept whatever their husband does and always stand by him. And that they protect their nether regions from other penises because thats what's most important in a woman apparently.

Honestly reading some of the comments I've seen here make me so sick my penis turtled up in shame. And that's a shame. Because I'm normally so proud of him- he's magnificent! What was I saying?

Oh yeah, a lot of dudes suck and your comments here make me sad.

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