Feast of Burden

Wow. Your reading of this very disturbing trend is spot-on insightful. My own research examines bodily discourse in the construction of the Other, but I focus my research on the mad and "demonic" or otherwise non/uncontrollable body. This "new" (?) fetishization of feeding porn is, frankly, frightening, when we consider that which can provide strength and comfort--food--now becomes yet another violence-infused tool to manipulate and control the female body.

Perhaps you should do a little more research when it comes Ivy and what she does for her website.

Also perhaps actually TALKING to her about this might have lent some truth to your statements.

There is no man/feeder filming her when she records her videos, and she gains weight because SHE wants to. There is no male influence sitting there telling her to do so. Sure they ask, but those who do are men she has never met nor spoken to in person, who simply leave their suggestions and comments via forums.

So perhaps in future;
1. ask permission before you write about a girl
2. talk to the girl so you don't write false statements and misconstrued criticisms like you have
and 3. not all feeders even care about weight gain, some just enjoy the act of putting a strawberry in someone's mouth, which is a well known act among people of "socially acceptable" sizes, not just fat women.

knowledge is power; research + facts over speculation + rumour

Perhaps you should do a little more research when it comes Ivy and what she does for her website.

Also perhaps actually TALKING to her about this might have lent some truth to your statements.

There is no man/feeder filming her when she records her videos, and she gains weight because SHE wants to. There is no male influence sitting there telling her to do so. Sure they ask, but those who do are men she has never met nor spoken to in person, who simply leave their suggestions and comments via forums.

So perhaps in future;
1. ask permission before you write about a girl
2. talk to the girl so you don't write false statements and misconstrued criticisms like you have
and 3. not all feeders even care about weight gain, some just enjoy the act of putting a strawberry in someone's mouth, which is a well known act among people of "socially acceptable" sizes, not just fat women.

knowledge is power; research + facts over speculation + rumour

I am appalled at your use of Ivy as a subject without so much as contacting her. As a friend of both her and Violet, reading this article was a strange experience for me. It's like you cut and pasted Ivy's name into something that really doesn't apply to her. The misunderstanding of this culture just radiates from this "piece" (a term that I am using loosely at this point), and it bothers me that the readers of Bitch who previously did not know about it may use this as a source of information. It bothers me that a publication such as Bitch would write something like this, but I don't think it's the first time. I've seen articles where the author struggles to accept that some women choose to and WANT to take traditional female roles. Now, it's sort of the other side. The author is struggling with something more extreme. I wasn't aware feminists came in a certain package, Bitch. Aren't we supposed to just be free to lead our own lives without fear of scrutiny? At the very least, a retraction should be published. Or, y'know, you could actually TALK TO YOUR SUBJECTS.

Hello,

I am the webmaster of http://www.bbwpinups.com as well as one of the models on the site. I have known Ivy since 2004, and have worked with her in the past. Worked with meaning, I used to be her webmaster, and I have also modeled with her in many pictorials and videos. So, seeing as I have known this fine woman going on 6 years now, I am appalled by the misinformation presented in this article.

I could sit here and type until my fingers fall off about how you misrepresent the BBW Modeling community and feederism, but would if fall on deaf ears? Your lack of reliable sources leads me to believe it would be. So I will merely echo what my friends and collegues have said: Feeder porn very rarely includes a man behind the scenes. Big Cuties, BBW Pinups, and Ivy's current website, HotFattyGirl.com, are all female produced and maintained. Many who gain do so because they choose to. Not all BBW Models are gainers, however. Also, I would like to say that since you posted my site, BBW Pinups, I need to clarify something. Not all the models on pinup pose with food. Those that do, are doing just that...posing. Yes, we often indulge in the food, but of our own free will...and sometimes, you know what? We don't clean our plate. We don't eat it ALL. That's the beauty of still photography.

In closing, I would like to direct your attention to a website that should surely interest you, since you fancy yourself a journalist. It's the Society for Professional Journalists web page on the Code of Journalistic Ethics. Please review it, in fact, please download the PDF they provide and review it everytime you sit down to write an "article". http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

Tami

Firstly, let me say that as a fellow BBW Model, I am appalled on Ivy's behalf. If only you had spoken with her, you might have been able to paint a more realistic picture of her lifestyle and body of work. As a fellow journalist and expert on the subject of feederism (I write an informative monthly column on this subject) I can confidently say that you are peddling nothing more than misinformation and a skewed perspective.

Feederism is a lifestyle choice made by the women involved. The fact that you stated that somewhere there is a man standing off camera forcibly creating this overeating scenario is ridiculous. If you knew anything about this industry, you would know that many of us have female photographers, often other webmodel ladies. You would also understand that just like any other industry, you do what sells. So eating, and rubbing your belly and saying how full you are... All of these things may excite the performer, since as in Ivy's case and mine, we are into the feedee lifestyle, but they are also part of a good performance. It's about knowing your audience and what they want to see.

It really intrigues me that you attack this issue from some sort of concern for women's liberation, yet I cannot see anything more liberating than being comfortable in your body, no matter the shape. If you are to attack the feederism lifestyle, should you not also attack the concept that a woman needs to be thin to be beautiful. How many women who work out 5 times a week, do it because they enjoy it? Many of them may be doing it to please a spouse or mate. But I understand that it is easier to attack fat culture, because it seems different or outside of the norm to you.

My advice to you is simple. Next time you choose to write an article on a subject matter that you know nothing about, do your research. Go to the source.

My comments and feelings on the matter would be the same no matter who the model/example was.

You claim to have read books on the issue... are you retarded? The matter at hand is an ever changing and evolving beast. A book written 6months ago would be almost irrelevant by now.

Also as many stated, it's a little thing called acting. It's been done by people in porn SINCE DAY ONE.

As many have stated, if you were "just using ivy as an example", then perhaps you should have used an ACCURATE example, since everything you said about her was false and thus rendering the "point" you were trying to make irrelevant. You cannot prove the sky is purple by siting a photo shopped image in which the sky is purple when so many clearly know it's blue.

Also your reaction to all the comments, including name calling and downright nastiness just goes to further lower our opinions of you, and show your severe lack of professionalism. I am sure you must be some young little doe walking in the woods, excited for the world and thinking everything will lay down at your feet, but never forget, bears live in those woods too. If you cannot handle the criticism, GET OUT NOW.

You cannot win a jury case with false "examples", do NOT for a second think you will convince a tight knit community who has known it's members and models for DECADES will ever believe what you're saying.

Also i am SHOCKED that a so called feminist assumes that someone like myself, A WOMAN, has no opinion on a matter simply because i know Ivy. Ivy did NOT ask me to say anything, she didn't even tell me directly about it. Someone else mentioned it and i took a look for myself. Upon reading THE ENTIRE ARTICLE i was so furious with your misrepresentation and falsehoods that i chose ON MY OWN, AS AN ADULT WOMAN, WITH MY OWN MIND AND OPINIONS to post in response. I would have done the same regardless of whom the "story" was about since i disagree with more than just what was said in regards to ms.Ivy.

With the way you put so much power into the men's hands in this article.... when that is so far from the case, it leads me to picture you walking around in an apron serving dinner to some slob and then venting, using the bbw community as an outlet, later on the internet. Sad imagery really.

- false "examples" to prove "points" that also are not accurate
- no professionalism or capability in handling criticism
- no future in the dog eat dog world that is journalism....

I am a male, and I am one of the select few who takes sexual pleasure in feeding women and watching them grow fatter. This having been said, I take GREAT offense at your laughably misinformed statement of: "Feeders get off on the idea that their feedee might one day become too “satisfied”—and too obese—to move, thus making them completely dependent on their feeder. It’s an extreme manifestation of the idea that masculinity in men involves eroticized dominance over women."

Although it is true that I enjoy seeing women gain weight and large amounts of it, I would never feed a woman so much that she becomes sick, I would never fatten a woman to a point where her health is in danger, and I most certainly would NEVER force a woman to immobility against her will. And as a male who spends large amounts of time in various feeder/feedee internet groups, sites, message boards, etc, I don't know who many males who would oppose my point of view.

See, as hard as it may be beyond the collective understanding of your narrow-minded "journalistic" crew, but most male feeders hold women in very high esteem and hold nothing but respect for them.

The next time you seek to write an article which is little more than a thinly veiled attack upon people who live a lifestyle which you do not understand, please do your fact-checking first.

I will be sure to tell every femaleI know, fat and thin, to steer clear of your publication, both online and in print.

I would like to leave a few comments about the article and the comments left by some obviously offended girls.

First of all, as a member of the BBW community myself, I can say that I find this article well-written and informative. There are a few holes, such as the one made where it is said that all feeders ultimately want to see their girls immobile (it's true that some do, but certainly not all and not the majority), but all-in-all I find the article to be quite observant to the mechanics of the feedee/web-model business. This article was written from an outsider's point-of-view and not an insiders, and I find it very true to what the business looks like from the outside world (it's more blunt and raw). Like it or not girls, that *is* what we are doing, it's just not been glamorized like it is inside the BBW community.

I'm reading the comments from friends of Ivy's/upset BBW community members, and I have to say that I'm rather embarrassed for my community after reading these. There is nothing written in this article that is a reason to get so upset over. This is an informative article and publicity, people. If you have a website and promote certain things, do not retort and get offended when what you do is being observed and written about. If you're a public feedee and then get offended by having it pointed out, then maybe you shouldn't be doing what you are doing.

I really wish that the people in the BBW community wouldn't jump to react and defend something that was not written to offend, but to educate. If you are a web-model and you engage yourself in feedee-like material, act or not, be proud of who you are what you do and what you stand for. All this bitching at this article just reflects how insecure most of the BBW community is with what they do, and that's not something I support.

Also, you do not require permission to use public names or general info as material for an article. You need permission for real names and copyright/privately owned photographs, videos or other media.

Not every article written is going to sprinkle glitter on what we do. We need to get real about it and accept that. What we do is a break in normal societal behavior, and with that title you need a thick skin, confidence in yourself and a positive attitude. Let people observe and write about it all they want so that more and more become at least slightly educated. Not everyone is going to like it, understand it or agree with it, but that's no reason to hide from it.

I think it's great that this feminist magazine decided to spotlight a very young and avid feedee from the community and this girl should be proud and not offended. If anything at least this gives you plenty more publicity, girl. And all publicity is good publicity in the face of business, right?

Just some food for THOUGHT this time.

Hi, I just wanted to add my two cents to this debate as a man who is both sexually aroused by the things described in this article and a man who has also taken a few women's studies courses and can understand how this could be misconstrued by people who read this magazine(which I personally feel is the best available widely read Feminist magazine, much better than "Bust" for instance) who don't subscribe to this particular fetish. I don’t want to attack anyone or belittle anyone, so I'll just use my personal experience to illustrate my *personal* experience with this fetish in the hopes that it will be in some way enlightening.
In most cartoons there is usually a sequence where a character eats so much that they grow(either in only belly or all over) to immense proportions. For whatever reason, these images became erotic to me, (Dan Savage has a great explanation of this btw) and that has carried over into adulthood. I can’t honestly tell you how many times I’ve been incredibly embarrassed by how aroused I become from casually seeing something like this. There are many examples that I could name off the top of my head: almost any episode of “Garfield the Cat”, “Eek the Cat’s” girlfriend Annabelle, the scene from “Charlotte’s Web” with the rat gorging himself after the end of the carnival, the big bad wolf from “Little Red Riding Hood” gobbling people up whole, “Slimer” from “Ghostbusters” etc. My point is that, *for me*, the source of my fetish is not in “hidden societal taboos” or anything to do with “unconscious desires” or anything as silly and Freudian as that, rather, just like the person who experienced corporal punishment or spankings as a child and goes on to enjoy those same things as a consenting, rational adult, I also was imprinted with a desire for something that has nothing to do with the literal sex act, but is, nonetheless, erotic to me.
So, now I’m an adult male who is attracted to the larger female form but still has these desires, do I actually wish to feed(or in my case, passively watch) my partner until they can no longer move? No, and I don’t expect them to grow to immense, godzilla-like dimensions either. Do I read *fantasy* stories that depict such scenarios? Yes. Much like the often misunderstood “S/M” fetish I can see how the feeder fetish seems outlandish, exploitative, and scary to people who don’t have any personal experience with it, but by simply asking a person who has that particular fetish and incorporates it into their healthy, active sex life one finds that that is not the case, and the woman(or man) involved is not a victim or a damsel in distress, but usually a person who is very in touch and happy with their sexual desires.
I guess I’m just bummed out by this article simply because I would love to see an actual article that addresses this fetish and I’ve become accustomed to seeing that level of research and care from past Bitch articles. The moderator has already pointed out that this is merely an opinion piece, and I take that point, but this article reminds me of out-dated sociological studies where the researcher goes into a culture without speaking the language(sometimes literally!) and comes away with a perspective that would appall the members of that culture with it’s emphasis on the “scary” and “exotic” . While I don’t mean to compare the experience of feeders to that of tribes exploited by racist archaeologists, it’s rather disheartening to this male, feminist feeder that with a large, popular, and free website with scads of resource material from actual participants upon which to balance any prospective article on the misunderstood fetish of feederism available at the FIRST page of a quick google search for “feeder” the author declined to include actual first-person accounts of this fetish and choose to stick with sensationalism and articles that have, *in my opinion*, little, or nothing to do with Feederism.
I don’t claim to speak for other “Feeders” or “Feedees”, or “Foodies”, or “FA’s” or “FFA’s” or “Feeder/FA’s” or anyone else in the complex universe of feeding or fat fetishes, but *I, for one*, do not wish to actually feed my partner into immobility or wish any harm to come to them. I love the idea however, of a fat girl loving her larger body while enjoying ice cream and then allowing me to rub her belly afterwards and feeling sexy and loved the whole time. That also is “Feeding”. The whole point of it, *for me* is that she enjoys: eating, food, and esp. eating fattening food on her OWN accord, regardless of my feelings about it and asking for no input one way or another. That's the erotic part for me. "Garfield" never asked "John" how he felt about his eating habits, neither did the "big bad wolf", "Slimer", or any other character from my childhood cartoons and films. The sexy part, *for me* was how confident and in control of their own eating habits and their feelings about those habits these characters are. This has carried into my adult life, and seeing a sexy, confident fat girl eat a hamburger with no shame and obvous relish is the height of hot * for me*. An obviously scared, or disinterested woman doing the same thing produces quite the opposite reaction. As a male who has struggled with accepting his desire for the fat female form in the face of much ingrained fat phobia (in both my home growing up and in society at large) the caring and interested people I’ve met on feeder forums have actually really helped me to come out with my desires and get past my fat phobia to see fat girls for the gorgeous women that they are, and articles that sensationalize the admittedly cartoonish and strange customs of a fetish like this do nothing to help.

This is a very poorly constructed argument. The author, while impressing her opinion, has done nothing to introduce other arguments, or any pro-feeding rhetoric. While this particular kink is NOT my favorite and I have many issues with IT as well, I have talked to many people both feedees and feeders and have done my homework to be able to feel comfortable with this fetish being around me. What concerns me most is that there are some points in this article that are outright outrageous.
"The ultimate (if generally unattained) goal of the relationship is for the feedee to become immobile, and this eventual incapacitation is fetishized: Feeders get off on the idea that their feedee might one day become too “satisfied”—and too obese—to move, thus making them completely dependent on their feeder."

This quote is very frightening, from the authors point of view and mine. To the author, its a sensationalized extreme scenario meant to illustrate the craziness of this fetish and pull the reader into sway. However, making this point is like saying "All BDSM practitioners want to become full-time slaves" or "All butch lesbians want to be men" or even "All Feminists are rabid man-haters". Its exactly the kind of extreme propaganda the author hates in mainstream media, and something we've all been trying to work against.

I am ultimately disappointed in this article because of its lack of respect for the audience, the topic and it is not the kind of article I would expect to be written in a well-thought of publication. I would like to see a rebuttal by Ivy and a more balanced view on the subject.

As much as feminism is about celebrating the body in its various incarnations, it's also about promoting and preserving women's health. It seems that many people here are privileging psychological and emotional well-being over physical well-being, but just as too-thin bodies have extra health problems, obese bodies have extra health problems. And these health problems have literal price tags. I believe everyone has a right to health care. I also believe in personal responsibility. I know I'm sounding hopelessly idealistic here, but we should all shoulder the burden of health care, and we should all keep ourselves as healthy as possible. Unlike other "taboo" fetishes (BSM comes to mind) the consequences of feeding endanger personal health in the long-term. Creating and promoting sites that celebrate or encourage women to overeat is irresponsible, which to me makes it anti-feminist.

I'd just like to point out that most pornography relies on male voyeurism, which is inherently dependent on a relationship of male domination. Choosing to profit from that relationship does not undercut the fact that it objectifies and devalues women.

Also, what's up with accusing Hester of being too young to understand feminism? The fact that she is a college student has nothing to do with her ability to engage theory intelligently.

I did enjoy this article and some of the more intelligent comments made about it. However the entire conversation seems to be weighted heavily towards the second wave feminist lens that presumes all (or at least most) pornography objectifies women; which in my opinion is only half true. The nasty truth is that men objectify women in general, not just in porn, and women objectify men the same way this is a fact of human nature that we'll just have to learn to live with.
However, there is one issue the article did not touch upon and that is the fact that the making and distribution of pornography is a business and as such Ivy and other such actresses are attempting to fulfill a demand, which apparently they have been rather successful at. As to whether or not they are being objectified, of course they are that's the nature of the business and undoubtedly they know this. As to the whole domination of the man over the female body well that's been the chief male fantasy since time immemorial it should hardly be a topic of interest anymore, a more interesting line of inquiry might be how women have chosen/tried to subvert this fantasy into one were the woman controls the male body, as could perhaps be argued in reference to pornography. But that's only my opinion.
Anyway, a very interesting article thank you for introducing me to a new type of fetish :D

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